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Old 11-08-2013, 09:45 AM
 
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The greatest players transcend time.




Literally.


Using my time machine, I sent Bird to an alternate universe 2016 and he just lit up Wiggins, MCW, Lebron, and (insert name here)
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Old 11-21-2013, 05:30 AM
 
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nowadays lebron becoming better, but 2012 dream-team with lebron and other crying athletic girls was almost ****ed by non athletic average lithuaninan team in olimpic games, 1992 real dream team outscored best ever lithuania team with Sabonis, Marciulionis and Karnisovas by 52 point, you don't have to jump 50 inches to make field goal, the main think is to score points more than oponent, not to dance, not to reach basket with head. the best players was in Bird, Magic and Jordan era, now is crying girls careing about show and money, Bird in these days will be in TOP 5 league players, score average 4 more points per game - 2 more 3pointers and more 2 free throw points. and at the ens add medecine he would play +5 year and plus 5 year with better health.
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Old 11-21-2013, 06:17 AM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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Without question. Love is the best there is today at his spot and Bird would still be better than him.
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Old 11-21-2013, 08:41 PM
 
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Without question. Love is the best there is today at his spot and Bird would still be better than him.
Bird was a small forward, Love is a power forward.

Or do you mean the tall white American guy spot?
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Old 11-21-2013, 09:59 PM
 
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Bird was a small forward, Love is a power forward.

Or do you mean the tall white American guy spot?
Bird played both. Bird and Love are about the same height as well (6'-9" - 6'10"). And yeah, they are both Caucasian. But former MVP Dirk would also have probably gotten owned by Bird, or at least been even with him (since we're on the subject of greatest ever white Fs).
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Old 11-21-2013, 10:25 PM
 
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Bird played both. Bird and Love are about the same height as well (6'-9" - 6'10"). And yeah, they are both Caucasian. But former MVP Dirk would also have probably gotten owned by Bird, or at least been even with him (since we're on the subject of greatest ever white Fs).
Well, Bird's primary position was small forward, and if that's what you mean then Love is definitely not the best at that spot. Lebron and Durant are a lot better than Love.
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Old 11-22-2013, 06:59 PM
 
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Well, Bird's primary position was small forward, and if that's what you mean then Love is definitely not the best at that spot. Lebron and Durant are a lot better than Love.

bird was so much better than nowitzki and Durant.
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Old 11-25-2013, 05:28 PM
 
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Of course he would. Haven't read the thread yet and I would imagine I am going to be infuriated with people saying "no, he is too slow, blah, blah"
While not the most athletic guy, he had possibly the highest bball iq of all time, one of the best shooters ever, a fantastic passer, great rebounder, incredibly clutch, and a scrappy defender.
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Old 11-26-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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Larry Bird is and always will be one of the 10 greatest NBA players of all time.

There are many differences between eras but the greatest of players transcend all of them. If you can ball, you can ball... it really is that plain and simple.

People like to focus on the athletic freaks as if they have an advantage, but the argument can be flipped around entirely and the question can be asked if today's star player could have been as effective 30 years ago when the average player's IQ and skill level were significantly higher, there were fewer teams (talent less spread out), rules allowed for physicality on defense and disallowed "palming" of the ball... and so on.

Athleticism goes a very long way, but it never trumps skill. Skills only get sharper while athleticism only gets duller.

And for Bird, come on. You're talking a 6-foot-9 guy who could shoot the lights out, run the break, pass, rebound, etc.

Not to mention one of the most hardcore competitors in sports history.

And for the guy who said Bill Russell was 6-9 220 and that's a small forward today... realize Russell was 6-9 220 some 50 years ago. The human being has gotten bigger. Russell today, especially with supplementation and weight-training, would be closer to 6-10.5 and 255. Heck, Ben Wallace made a huge impact at around 6-9 240... and Russell was so much better.
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Old 11-26-2013, 06:17 PM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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Lebron and Durant are a lot better than Love.
I don't agree at all. Better, by a little, maybe, but not significantly better. He's doing things guys haven't done in decades:

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But look at Love's production: 26.4 points, 15.0 rebounds, 5.0 assists and the second best PER in the league. The Wolves are 5-3 and undoubtedly better than they were last season, and they're almost entirely centered around Love. There's a very real probability that assuming he plays all 82 games this season, Love will record 82 double-doubles, and with the way he's passing the ball, probably a few triple-doubles too.

Let's say the Timberwolves win 50 games, grab the sixth seed in the West and Love finishes averaging 26-15-5 the entire season. You know who's averaged that in a season? Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. And no one since 1976.
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