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Old 02-23-2012, 08:27 AM
 
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the key is that very few guys who are not PG/SGs last until 36-37-38 yrs old and with the exception of steve nash and his pact with the devil (dirks best friend hmmmm maybe they made the pact together) are very productive at that age. of those players none played international ball like dirk. i really think that is a large factor that is going to hinder his production severely over the next couple of seasons. especially with the olympics coming this summer. he is going to be putting a lot of wear on his body this year. and IF they can make it out of the 1st round of the playoffs then he is going to go right from the playoffs into the german team. thats a bad scenario. its the same thing with parker.
Yeah, all those people making predictions about players maintaining a high level of play into their late 30's are making huge stretches and assumptions.

All it takes is one decent injury which turns into a chronic problem and that's it folks.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:47 AM
 
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I'm hoping Cuban's master plan is to bring Dirk's career full circle, by putting him back on the perimeter and away from the heavy contact. He could up his average back to the 25ppg easily with increased 3pt attempts.

All it takes is Dwight Howard.
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Old 10-04-2013, 02:45 PM
 
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Old 10-04-2013, 03:08 PM
 
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Personally, i think in the coming years, Blake Griffin will be the marketing face of the league. His high flying flashy stuff is what people like and see more often. Also, playing in a market like L.A gives him that boost.
In the internet age, I think as long as you are a stud player on a team making noise in the playoffs....the city size doesn't matter. Especially since these guys are targeting the GLOBAL market.

I see Blake G fading unless the Clippers can start getting to at least the WCF if not the Finals.

Lebron was HUGE playing Cleveland...Durant is huge playing in OKC....etc.
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Old 10-04-2013, 03:34 PM
 
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Since Dirk just passed Robert Parrish into the #20 spot in NBA scoring history. He also became just the 3rd player in NBA history to record over 1000 blocks and 1000 3pt makes.

My question is, where do you see him finishing his career on the list? Only two current players are ahead of him; Kevin Garnett, Dirk will pass him next year, possibly late this season. And Kobe Bryant, he will never pass. I think Kobe will retire as the #2 or 3 scorer all time.


1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 38387
2. Karl Malone* 36928
3. Michael Jordan* 32292
4. Wilt Chamberlain* 31419
5. Kobe Bryant 28795 - 15 seasons
6. Shaquille O'Neal 28596
7. Moses Malone* 27409
8. Elvin Hayes* 27313
9. Hakeem Olajuwon* 26946
10. Oscar Robertson* 26710
11. Dominique Wilkins* 26668
12. John Havlicek* 26395
13. Alex English* 25613
14. Reggie Miller 25279
15. Jerry West* 25192
16. Patrick Ewing* 24815
17. Allen Iverson 24368
18. Charles Barkley* 23757
19. Kevin Garnett 23719 - 16 seasons
20. Dirk Nowitzki 23354 - 13 seasons
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 38387
2. Karl Malone* 36928
3. Michael Jordan* 32292
4. Kobe Bryant 31617
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 31419
6. Shaquille O'Neal 28596
7. Moses Malone* 27409
8. Elvin Hayes* 27313
9. Hakeem Olajuwon* 26946
10. Oscar Robertson* 26710
11. Dominique Wilkins* 26668
12. John Havlicek* 26395
13. Alex English* 25613
14. Reggie Miller* 25279
15. Kevin Garnett 25274
16. Jerry West* 25192
17. Dirk Nowitzki 25051
18. Patrick Ewing* 24815
19. Allen Iverson 24368
20. Paul Pierce 24021

Dirk moved up.... if he averages ~12 PPG for around ~60 games for the next 3 years he will be #7. He'll be #13 if he stays healthy this season scores 12 for 60 games.

Kobe will have to score 18 per game , 60 games for 5 years...into age 40 to be #2.
He'll be #3 for sure.
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Old 10-04-2013, 04:13 PM
 
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^^Yep, I think Dirk is healthy and will be over 20 pts/game this season. I can see him playing 3-4 more seasons.
Kobe is going to go for it this year to prove he beat his injury, but he's gone so hard for so long I can see him breaking down.
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Old 10-07-2013, 04:21 PM
 
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I tried to find the thread about someone started about Kobe passing Kareem on the all-time scoring list but it might have been deleted.

It was a good discussion.

I think that with this injury and advancing age that is off the table anymore.
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Old 10-07-2013, 04:23 PM
 
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1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 38387
2. Karl Malone* 36928
3. Michael Jordan* 32292
4. Kobe Bryant 31617
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 31419
6. Shaquille O'Neal 28596
7. Moses Malone* 27409
8. Elvin Hayes* 27313
9. Hakeem Olajuwon* 26946
10. Oscar Robertson* 26710
11. Dominique Wilkins* 26668
12. John Havlicek* 26395
13. Alex English* 25613
14. Reggie Miller* 25279
15. Kevin Garnett 25274
16. Jerry West* 25192
17. Dirk Nowitzki 25051
18. Patrick Ewing* 24815
19. Allen Iverson 24368
20. Paul Pierce 24021

Dirk moved up.... if he averages ~12 PPG for around ~60 games for the next 3 years he will be #7. He'll be #13 if he stays healthy this season scores 12 for 60 games.

Kobe will have to score 18 per game , 60 games for 5 years...into age 40 to be #2.
He'll be #3 for sure.
No way Kobe catches either Malone or Kareem at this stage. He'd have to play WAYYYYY past his prime and his ego isn't going to do that for something that wouldn't really enhance his legacy.

I could see him pass Jordan this year and retire.
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:11 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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No way Kobe catches either Malone or Kareem at this stage. He'd have to play WAYYYYY past his prime and his ego isn't going to do that for something that wouldn't really enhance his legacy.

I could see him pass Jordan this year and retire.
I think had he not had such a bad injury he would have had a shot. Now I think he passes Jordan and depending on his team next season, he's done.
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Old 10-08-2013, 07:27 AM
 
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I think had he not had such a bad injury he would have had a shot. Now I think he passes Jordan and depending on his team next season, he's done.
Kobe isn't going to take anything less than max and he's going to want 3-5 years.

They aren't going to throw together a ton of talent overnight around Kobe, while saddling themselves with a max contract for him. (not to mention when several big name agents off the record say their guys don't want to go play with him after what's happened with Bynum, Gasol and dozens more around the league.)

I can see just about every player on the Lakers gone after this lost season.
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