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Old 08-18-2011, 05:06 PM
 
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Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Moses Malone, and Robert Parish were able to play in the NBA for 21 years each.

But you look at today's big men, many of them can't stay healthy:

Yao Ming only played 9 seasons but in reality it was more like 6 or 7 seasons with all those leg injuries.

Andrew Bynum's knees started to blow out when he started playing heavy minutes for the Lakers.

Greg Oden: Goog god! Hasn't even played a full season's worth of games.

Why is it that big men aren't as durable as they use to be? Hell when Parish, Malone and Kareem played, the NBA was much more physical.
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Old 08-18-2011, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Cook County
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What about Shaq or Tim Duncan?

I'm sure you could pick out big men who had wasted potential from injury in any era.

Are you suggesting that guys were "tougher" back then?
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:18 PM
 
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What about Shaq or Tim Duncan?

I'm sure you could pick out big men who had wasted potential from injury in any era.

Are you suggesting that guys were "tougher" back then?
Those three guys played in the league for 21 years each. And also even Shaq and Duncan had there fair share of injuries.
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Old 08-23-2011, 06:08 AM
 
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Those three guys played in the league for 21 years each. And also even Shaq and Duncan had there fair share of injuries.
The three you mentioned were shadows of their former selves later in their career.

In order to make a fairer comparison you need to look at more centers and not cherry pick your data. (Bill Walton?)

One thing you should notice is that the game got more physical over the years which means beefier centers carrying more weight on already large frames. The 3 guys you cherry picked were pretty lean.

In recent times you had guys like Rodman, Ben Wallace and others but I'm not going to do all the digging for you.
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Old 08-23-2011, 03:35 PM
 
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The three you mentioned were shadows of their former selves later in their career.

In order to make a fairer comparison you need to look at more centers and not cherry pick your data. (Bill Walton?)

One thing you should notice is that the game got more physical over the years which means beefier centers carrying more weight on already large frames. The 3 guys you cherry picked were pretty lean.

In recent times you had guys like Rodman, Ben Wallace and others but I'm not going to do all the digging for you.

The game was more physical in the 80s and 90s. WAY more physical.

Back to the OP, humans are not meant to be that big. Some are more durable than others, but a guy that's seven feet tall is going to have injuries and health issues later on in life.
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Old 08-24-2011, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, Ca
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It's probably a combination of things...

-Guys now trying to do too much too soon, ie. bynum. Too much pressure to be a star too soon? Too much money? Tempting you to do things you shouldn't do.

I think the pressure is somewhat analogous to football. I remember an HBO Real sports segment about 300 lb lineman. Their numbers have exploded in the last 30 years. From a few to hundreds.

With basketball, the pressure is million dollar contracts, endorsements, etc. It translates to putting your body through things it shouldn't, taking more chances, etc. Or simply not being ready. Look how the league has been diluted.

-I looked up mark eaton's numbers, he played 10 seasons of 80-82 games! Similar with laimbeer, he played 13 seasons...79-82 games.

Maybe there is too much money now to put your body on the line for 20 years. I wonder if you'll see a guy like parish again, playing 21 seasons. Maybe the incentives aren't there.
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Old 08-29-2011, 07:59 AM
 
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The game is more physical, and today's athletes are considerably bigger. Have you seen Bynum? It's no surprise he's having chronic lower body issues, that's alot of muscle and weight jumping up and down.
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Old 09-07-2011, 01:22 PM
 
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But you look at today's big men, many of them can't stay healthy
The same was true back then. Bill Walton is the posterchild for the injury-prone center. Have you ever noticed how many big men have foot problems? Walton, Ilgauskas, Bill Cartwright, Kevin McHale, Yao,
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Old 09-09-2011, 02:22 PM
 
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The same was true back then. Bill Walton is the posterchild for the injury-prone center. Have you ever noticed how many big men have foot problems? Walton, Ilgauskas, Bill Cartwright, Kevin McHale, Yao,
But Ilgauskas, Cartwright and Mchale played at least for a decade. Yao didn't even last that long.
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Old 09-23-2011, 10:27 AM
 
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Is this the point where I can say Sam Bowie?

Not trying to prove a point either way, just can I say it?

Sam Bowie.
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