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Old 10-10-2011, 01:42 AM
 
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Lakers always have "celebrity" type players.
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:54 AM
 
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I seriously don't think Howard has the "killer" instinct guys like MJ and Kobe have. I don't think he cares about his legacy. I think he just wants to win. His best chances at winning with the current landscape would be with the Bulls. The Magic have tried several times in the last 13 years to make a championship team but they have had some bad luck and poor decisions. Grant Hill and T-Mac were suppose to be the best duo about ten years but Hill was constantly hurt. Then they bring in Lewis and Carter and they don't do anywhere near as expected. They go get Hudo back and bring Richardson but they aren't enough at all. If Arenas magically becomes the player he was 3 years ago, that would make the Magic a legit threat in the east but I doubt that. Though, I do remember some talk with getting CP3 to Orlando and starting a new big 3 there which would be become cool but highly unlikely.
I don't know how you can say that about Howard. The guy has clearly worked hard on his game and last year added in some offense that people said he couldn't pull off. I've yet to see his game reach it's peak as he has improved every year.

Frankly, if they held a complete re-draft today across the NBA....he's my #1 pick.

I think that if he joins the Bulls, that team WILL win at least 1 ring and would be a nightmare scenario for the Heats hopes of multiple rings.
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Southwest Houston Texas
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lakers had a couple of crap years. like the early magic retirement/pre- shaq era. divac, eddie jones, elden campell, nick van exel and scrubs.
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Old 10-11-2011, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Santa Ana
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lakers had a couple of crap years. like the early magic retirement/pre- shaq era. divac, eddie jones, elden campell, nick van exel and scrubs.
yeah but they have missed the playoffs only twice since 1980
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:15 PM
 
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On a bizarre note, if there is no season this year does that tick a year off Luke Walton's contract or are all the contracts just "suspended" for a year?

He is a 5million section of deadspace on their cap and a major reason they can't make any moves.
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:52 AM
 
Location: LBC
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Lakers bought their rings. Others actually earned it through drafts.
For the love of....

Kobe - Brilliant, genius, draft day trade
Pau - trade
Bynum- draft
Fish- drafted, returned via free agency
World Peace - MLE
LO - Relatively modest compensation for moving Shaq
Shannon Brown- A throw in on a trade, offloading Vlad Rad
Matt Barnes - split MLE
Blake - Split MLE

The Lakers run their business better than any in the association, working under the constraints of what is known as a "salary cap". Anything paid over that cap is to retain their current personnel acquired through through their own industry, under the same cap applicable to every team, rather than let that talent walk and ultimately go to waste on spendthrift also- rans like the Knicks.

The Yankees, OTOH, spend DOUBLE than the Tigers and Cards, who are still actually playing baseball.
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:57 AM
 
Location: LBC
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On a bizarre note, if there is no season this year does that tick a year off Luke Walton's contract or are all the contracts just "suspended" for a year?

He is a 5million section of deadspace on their cap and a major reason they can't make any moves.
All players would lose the year from their contract term if there is no season. So we've got that going for us.
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:00 PM
 
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All players would lose the year from their contract term if there is no season. So we've got that going for us.
Thanks. That's a REALLY fascinating dynamic to the whole thing.

1. Teams with some DOG contracts that they need to clear to make moves. (Knicks maybe? Lakers for sure....)

2. Imagine some of the older stars on the 7th year of their contract? Guys are going to lose big money given how they are paid about 20million in the last year.

3. Wondering how many guys have endorsment deals that pay little or at least a lot less if there is no season.
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Old 10-14-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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Yankees have choked in the last 2 years.

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quote=nslander;21279661]For the love of....

Kobe - Brilliant, genius, draft day trade
Pau - trade
Bynum- draft
Fish- drafted, returned via free agency
World Peace - MLE
LO - Relatively modest compensation for moving Shaq
Shannon Brown- A throw in on a trade, offloading Vlad Rad
Matt Barnes - split MLE
Blake - Split MLE

The Lakers run their business better than any in the association, working under the constraints of what is known as a "salary cap". Anything paid over that cap is to retain their current personnel acquired through through their own industry, under the same cap applicable to every team, rather than let that talent walk and ultimately go to waste on spendthrift also- rans like the Knicks.

The Yankees, OTOH, spend DOUBLE than the Tigers and Cards, who are still actually playing baseball.[/quote]
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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For the love of....

Kobe - Brilliant, genius, draft day trade
Pau - trade
Bynum- draft
Fish- drafted, returned via free agency
World Peace - MLE
LO - Relatively modest compensation for moving Shaq
Shannon Brown- A throw in on a trade, offloading Vlad Rad
Matt Barnes - split MLE
Blake - Split MLE

The Lakers run their business better than any in the association, working under the constraints of what is known as a "salary cap". Anything paid over that cap is to retain their current personnel acquired through through their own industry, under the same cap applicable to every team, rather than let that talent walk and ultimately go to waste on spendthrift also- rans like the Knicks.

The Yankees, OTOH, spend DOUBLE than the Tigers and Cards, who are still actually playing baseball.
Can't dog the Yankees. They are still the most profitable team in MLB. The NBA cap is a little different. Last year I recall the Lakers being at home while Dallas was still playing!!!
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