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Old 12-15-2011, 05:45 AM
 
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I think they have a shot now to get their first title since the Jordan era. The Bulls won 62 games last year, and have kept everyone. Hamilton is just what they needed, a jump shooter to help spread the floor and take kick-out passes from their inside-oriented offense. The only question is his age(33), but I recalled reading at a running site that I frequent that Hamilton is one of those rare NBA players who does a little distance running, so hopefully that fitness will pay off.

Richard Hamilton Interview from Runner's World.com

Well maybe a mile is not 'distance' but I guess it is by NBA standards. Tough to run long when you're 6'7".

The Bulls have great depth with their bigs. That will help them in the compressed schedule, I think. Plus this will be a long team generally now, with 6'9 Deng at SF and 6'7" Hamilton at SG (assuming listed heights are accurate). Boozer is supposedly in tip top condition. We'll see.
Chicago Bulls Training Camp 2011: Carlos Boozer Enters Camp In Better Shape - SB Nation Chicago

I'm going to hate myself in the morning, but as a longtime Bulls fan (since the days of Sloan/Walker/Love) I'll probably watch some NBA this year.
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Old 12-15-2011, 06:16 AM
 
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Richard Hamilton would practically be the same player at 25, that he is at 33. That's just the nature of his game. He does offer championship experience and a steady jumpshot, two things that could definitely aid the Bulls as they climb the mountain. Personally, I think they should sign Mcgrady too since he can be had for cheap, and there is word that he's the healthiest he's been a years( take that with a grain of salt though).

I must say the East is shaping up to be very interesting. The Bulls are building a juggernaut, New York just got a lot more interesting with the Chandler trade, the Heat doing their thing....some fascinating matchups in the coming seasons.
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Old 12-15-2011, 06:29 AM
 
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Richard Hamilton would practically be the same player at 25, that he is at 33. That's just the nature of his game. He does offer championship experience and a steady jumpshot, two things that could definitely aid the Bulls as they climb the mountain. Personally, I think they should sign Mcgrady too since he can be had for cheap, and there is word that he's the healthiest he's been a years( take that with a grain of salt though).

I must say the East is shaping up to be very interesting. The Bulls are building a juggernaut, New York just got a lot more interesting with the Chandler trade, the Heat doing their thing....some fascinating matchups in the coming seasons.
He already signed with Atlanta
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Old 12-15-2011, 07:04 AM
 
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Excellent acquisition for the Bulls who are generally young and just getting better.

Miami has to be a little more than a bit nervous as the Bulls are breathing down their neck and Howard is still out there in free agency.

I remain utterly unimpressed by what the Knicks are building. Unless Carmelo and Amare suddenly change their stripes thier crappo defense will permeate that team like an unflushed toilet.
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Old 12-15-2011, 07:27 AM
 
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He already signed with Atlanta
Did he? Oh....thanks for the tip. That piece of news slipped under my radar.
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Old 12-15-2011, 07:32 AM
 
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I think they were title contenders last year. As you pointed out they won over 60 games, and that was with injury problems during the reg. season with Joakim and Carlos Boozer. Getting a guy like Richard Hamilton is exactly what they needed, as shooting guard was their weakest position. Probable starting lineup> PG-Rose SG-Rip Hamilton SF-Loul Deng PF-Carlos Boozer C-Joakim Noah and then the bench(stronger bench players I should say)> Omer Asik and Taj Gibson two young talented bigs, CJ Watson and Ronnie Brewer for decent backups at the guard positions, and also a SG and very good 3 shooter in Kyle Korver.
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Old 12-15-2011, 07:37 AM
 
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I remain utterly unimpressed by what the Knicks are building. Unless Carmelo and Amare suddenly change their stripes thier crappo defense will permeate that team like an unflushed toilet.
Indeed, but consider how Chandler changed the culture of the Mavericks, who were hardly defensive juggernauts before he arrived. I believe D'Antonio has also brought in a defensive specialist ala how the Celtics used Tom Thibodeau. Not saying Melo is going to turn into Scottie Pippen or Amare into Garnett defensively, but if they can be sold on the concept on playing both sides of the floor, they will certainly be a dangerous team and let's face it, in Melo and Amare you've got two of the most potent offensive weapons in the league. They aren't Chicago or Miami level, probably a notch down, but not a team you'd want to play in the playoffs.
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Old 12-15-2011, 07:59 AM
 
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Indeed, but consider how Chandler changed the culture of the Mavericks, who were hardly defensive juggernauts before he arrived. I believe D'Antonio has also brought in a defensive specialist ala how the Celtics used Tom Thibodeau. Not saying Melo is going to turn into Scottie Pippen or Amare into Garnett defensively, but if they can be sold on the concept on playing both sides of the floor, they will certainly be a dangerous team and let's face it, in Melo and Amare you've got two of the most potent offensive weapons in the league. They aren't Chicago or Miami level, probably a notch down, but not a team you'd want to play in the playoffs.
The Mavs after their finals loss gutted their roster and rebuilt defensively with WAY more than just Chandler. (Marion is a known tough defender too and Kidd even though he is older.....and others). ALSO, Dirk is coachable and when pushed to transform the squad defensively bought in and lead the way instead of pouting and driving the coach out of Dallas.

So, Chandler came into a team with other good defensive players and full buy-in from the teams leadership and did his thing. Is he really going to be able to call out Carmelo for dogging it?

The entire experiment in NY hinges on Carmelo and Amare buying in on defense and taking coaching on it and occasionally being called out...I think those 2 have been in the league long enough that I like my prediction of FAILURE. (What did Carmelo do in Denver when presented with that option?)

Knicks will have a good regular season record and get flushed in the playoffs.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:00 AM
 
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He already signed with Atlanta
Good move by Atlanta. They have some REALLY good younger players.
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Old 12-15-2011, 08:25 AM
 
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The Mavs after their finals loss gutted their roster and rebuilt defensively with WAY more than just Chandler. (Marion is a known tough defender too and Kidd even though he is older.....and others). ALSO, Dirk is coachable and when pushed to transform the squad defensively bought in and lead the way instead of pouting and driving the coach out of Dallas.

So, Chandler came into a team with other good defensive players and full buy-in from the teams leadership and did his thing. Is he really going to be able to call out Carmelo for dogging it?
This is fair, but mainly what I mean( and didn't do a good job of explaining previously) is that Chandler provided Dallas with a tough, interior defensive presence that they have lacked for a decade. While guys like Marion and even the ageless Kidd are heady defensive players, it was the presence of Chandler in the middle that made teams think twice before waltzing into the lane. That element had been missing during Dirk's entire tenure.

And, for the record, I don't see New York winning anything. But they are markedly improved from years ago( then again they were total crap so that may not be much of a statement lol). I do recall during a Lakers-Nuggets playoff some time ago, where Melo had some really good defensive sequences on Kobe. It's not lack of ability with him so much as lack of will. He has the physical tools, but not the mentality. Being passionate about defense is half the battle.
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