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Old 03-10-2012, 06:26 AM
 
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The Knicks were on a winning streak without Melo. Since his returns from his injury, they were 2 - 6. Obviously the blame go to Melo because his returns provides no chemistry for the team. I was blaming Melo as well until end of Q1 last night.

The Knicks has talents. They might not be MVP quality like James and Wade, but the Knicks talents can beat the Heats and Bull's. So why they losing games after games?

The answer became clear to me near the end of Q1 against the Bucks last night. Knicks were up 10 and the starters was hot and running the defense. They were not only hot, they were on FIRES. Then the time out came and the head coach, D'Antoni pull 4 of the 5 starters, then the 5th one shortly. That's the tipping point of the game. They lost the game.

Anyone who play basketball, especially pick up basketball know this. The winning team barely take a break. As soon as the game is over, they get some water and begin the new game with the challengers immediately. The winners are in the zone, and they want to stay in the zone and keep winning.

But D'Antoni decided pull the players who were in the zone, put in players who is cold. In a pickup basketball term, the losers get to play the game. The winner is the one who get kick out of the game. The game with Mavs is the same in Q4. Why you put Lin and Melo back into the game when the 2nd team was killing the Mavs?

The Knicks need to replace the coach.
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Old 03-10-2012, 05:24 PM
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The Knicks were on a winning streak without Melo. Since his returns from his injury, they were 2 - 6. Obviously the blame go to Melo because his returns provides no chemistry for the team. I was blaming Melo as well until end of Q1 last night.

The Knicks has talents. They might not be MVP quality like James and Wade, but the Knicks talents can beat the Heats and Bull's. So why they losing games after games?

The answer became clear to me near the end of Q1 against the Bucks last night. Knicks were up 10 and the starters was hot and running the defense. They were not only hot, they were on FIRES. Then the time out came and the head coach, D'Antoni pull 4 of the 5 starters, then the 5th one shortly. That's the tipping point of the game. They lost the game.

Anyone who play basketball, especially pick up basketball know this. The winning team barely take a break. As soon as the game is over, they get some water and begin the new game with the challengers immediately. The winners are in the zone, and they want to stay in the zone and keep winning.

But D'Antoni decided pull the players who were in the zone, put in players who is cold. In a pickup basketball term, the losers get to play the game. The winner is the one who get kick out of the game. The game with Mavs is the same in Q4. Why you put Lin and Melo back into the game when the 2nd team was killing the Mavs?

The Knicks need to replace the coach.

The Knicks started playing teams once melo returned to the lineup so it has nothing to do with chemistry. Keep in mind that during the emergence of Lin, the Knicks played most of their games at the Garden against losing teams which is why they were winning before melo. The only two teams they played during that stretch that was considered a challenge was the Lakers and Mavs. Since Melo returned they have had to play the Spurs, Mavs, and Celtics and play more games on the road which is the big difference since the beginning of February.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:12 PM
 
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Look at the Knicks FG pct. at .436. Not very good. Anthony at .401. When your go to guy is shooting .401, you're in trouble. And their 3 pt. pct is 4th from the bottom in the NBA, at .311
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For a team that is not known for defense, they are not going to win a lot of games until they can get that FG pct. up.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:18 PM
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Look at the Knicks FG pct. at .436. Not very good. Anthony at .401. When your go to guy is shooting .401, you're in trouble. And their 3 pt. pct is 4th from the bottom in the NBA, at .311
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For a team that is not known for defense, they are not going to win a lot of games until they can get that FG pct. up.
Not sure the Knicks seem to shoot the ball better in the Garden which is why I think they blow out the Sixers tomorrow after coming off a 4 game losing streak on the road. If they lose tomorrow the NYC media is going to be crazy.
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:34 PM
 
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You just figured this out?

D'Antoni doesn't coach defense, which already DQs his teams come playoff time.

Mix in a very outside shooting oriented offense with not a whole ton of shooters who would ever be mistaken for the next coming of Jeff Hornacek/Steve Kerr/Reggie Miller/Craig Hodges/etc from deep and this is what you get.

A team that can't make stops and can't make up ground when they go cold.

You're welcome.
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Old 03-11-2012, 08:18 AM
 
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The Knicks were on a winning streak without Melo. Since his returns from his injury, they were 2 - 6. Obviously the blame go to Melo because his returns provides no chemistry for the team. I was blaming Melo as well until end of Q1 last night.

The Knicks has talents. They might not be MVP quality like James and Wade, but the Knicks talents can beat the Heats and Bull's. So why they losing games after games?

The answer became clear to me near the end of Q1 against the Bucks last night. Knicks were up 10 and the starters was hot and running the defense. They were not only hot, they were on FIRES. Then the time out came and the head coach, D'Antoni pull 4 of the 5 starters, then the 5th one shortly. That's the tipping point of the game. They lost the game.

Anyone who play basketball, especially pick up basketball know this. The winning team barely take a break. As soon as the game is over, they get some water and begin the new game with the challengers immediately. The winners are in the zone, and they want to stay in the zone and keep winning.

But D'Antoni decided pull the players who were in the zone, put in players who is cold. In a pickup basketball term, the losers get to play the game. The winner is the one who get kick out of the game. The game with Mavs is the same in Q4. Why you put Lin and Melo back into the game when the 2nd team was killing the Mavs?

The Knicks need to replace the coach.

You are absolutely right.
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Old 03-11-2012, 09:26 AM
 
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You either have to be a defensive minded team or an offensive minded team. As a Warriors fan I am used to the run and gun offense. One element that is essential in an offense like that is a high scoring team with good percentage shooters and usually a team that has many guys that can shoot the 3 effectively. That is not the Knicks. Wait until Phil Jackson signs on next year and replaces D'Antoni and you'll see the difference.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:20 AM
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You either have to be a defensive minded team or an offensive minded team. As a Warriors fan I am used to the run and gun offense. One element that is essential in an offense like that is a high scoring team with good percentage shooters and usually a team that has many guys that can shoot the 3 effectively. That is not the Knicks. Wait until Phil Jackson signs on next year and replaces D'Antoni and you'll see the difference.
Phil Jackson doesn't sign on to be the coach of a NBA team without any superstars so you can forget about him coming to New York. Melo and Amare are good players but they are no way near superstar status in the NBA and Phil wouldn't even waste his time.
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Old 03-11-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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Phil Jackson doesn't sign on to be the coach of a NBA team without any superstars so you can forget about him coming to New York. Melo and Amare are good players but they are no way near superstar status in the NBA and Phil wouldn't even waste his
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Melo is a good solo player, he is not a team player. He only works hard if he is getting 100% of the attention, which is no longer the case now.

Stat needs to go. He is broke. He cannot dunk, he cannot D. He cannot run. The only reason why the Knicks is keeping him is because no one want him.

I think the best thing to do is Trade both + case for another player that want to win.

Both Melo and Stat account for 50% of Knicks salary.
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Old 03-11-2012, 01:10 PM
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Another loss for the Knicks at home against the Sixers with the Bulls game coming up tomorrow night in Chicago. This team is not going to the playoffs.
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