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Old 03-30-2012, 02:50 PM
 
Location: DMV
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Sometimes Monta is hard to work with but if you break down the trade the Warriors (which are the team that I follow) gave away a top 10 scorer in Ellis, an up and coming PF/C in Udoh (who was just starting to show his potential) and the expiring contract of Brown. In return we get Bogut(who is gone for the year) and after Jackson being traded we got Richard Jefferson. So we traded away one very good player and a good young guy for a reserve. This means that we threw in the towel for this year. I realize that they want to build around Curry and they are anticipating Bogut being fine for next year but now we need another solid scorer to join the group otherwise this trade was bust. I hope it turns out well but maybe going after a center during the offseason and focusing on the draft would have worked better.
He can score, but what else can he do? The problem with the team as it was constructed, was Ellis and Curry never complimented each other. Neither really is capable of playing defense against the other team's off-guard effectively night in and night out. They needed to get a more traditional SG who can play with Curry and give them a chance for him to reach his potential. Unfortunately Thompson is not much of a defender. To me, and this is just someone on the outside looking in, I think the trade was necessary. There was no way that team was going anywhere with two combo guards and a mediocre supporting cast. Next year you will have a C who drastically improves your defense and you will also have a lottery pick to address possibly your need for a more defensive minded guard and you also have a decent defensive SF. To me I think the team will be in better shape next year.

Look at this lineup:

PG: Curry/Robinson
SG: Thompson/Draft Pick
SF: Jefferson/Wright/McGuire
PF: Lee/Draft Pick or Free Agent?
C: Bogut/Biedrins

That's a pretty decent lineup in my opinion and has a lot more potential than the team this year. I don't care how close they got, they weren't making the playoffs with that atrocious defense and trying to compete against teams that are much better than them (Jazz, Rockets, Nuggets).
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Old 03-31-2012, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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He can score, but what else can he do? The problem with the team as it was constructed, was Ellis and Curry never complimented each other. Neither really is capable of playing defense against the other team's off-guard effectively night in and night out. They needed to get a more traditional SG who can play with Curry and give them a chance for him to reach his potential. Unfortunately Thompson is not much of a defender. To me, and this is just someone on the outside looking in, I think the trade was necessary. There was no way that team was going anywhere with two combo guards and a mediocre supporting cast. Next year you will have a C who drastically improves your defense and you will also have a lottery pick to address possibly your need for a more defensive minded guard and you also have a decent defensive SF. To me I think the team will be in better shape next year.

Look at this lineup:

PG: Curry/Robinson
SG: Thompson/Draft Pick
SF: Jefferson/Wright/McGuire
PF: Lee/Draft Pick or Free Agent?
C: Bogut/Biedrins

That's a pretty decent lineup in my opinion and has a lot more potential than the team this year. I don't care how close they got, they weren't making the playoffs with that atrocious defense and trying to compete against teams that are much better than them (Jazz, Rockets, Nuggets).
I totally agree that Curry and Ellis didn't work well together and the team decided to keep Curry and trade Ellis because Curry is easier to get along with. If they would have kept Ellis and traded Curry, we would have needed a pass first PG with a high assist total from game to game. We definitely needed a shakeup though. Ever since Biedrins went down hill a couple of years ago, this team has really suffered. Andris was a guy guaranteed a double/double every night and was good for a block or two but still needed to put on more size. Unfortunately his stats have dropped off considerably and we are now just waiting for his contract to expire. Now if we are healthy next year, we will definitely be competitive; but that is a 'BIG' if!
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:07 PM
 
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the fans booed because of the monta trade, because of rumors of moving the team to SF, and because they're frustrated and tired of supporting garbage teams year in and year out. as a long time warriors fan i've also had enough of this crap and i'm boycotting this stupid team. the warriors do stupid moves year in and year out, and these new owners arent any different. theres a common theme with this team, and its "wait for next year".. at best the warriors have been a 2nd round exit team for the last 25-30 years. at their best. this team will never be an elite team like Chicago, OKC, L.A etc. bunch of bums
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Old 06-18-2018, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Classless move on the fans who booed. Lacob has made a lot of smart moves in his short time with the Warriors, and is 95% better than the previous owner (would've been 100& if he had amnestied Biedrens).
I love being right (yes I am bored)

Lancet come back, we hardly knew ye.
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Old 06-19-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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He can score, but what else can he do? The problem with the team as it was constructed, was Ellis and Curry never complimented each other. Neither really is capable of playing defense against the other team's off-guard effectively night in and night out. They needed to get a more traditional SG who can play with Curry and give them a chance for him to reach his potential. Unfortunately Thompson is not much of a defender. To me, and this is just someone on the outside looking in, I think the trade was necessary. There was no way that team was going anywhere with two combo guards and a mediocre supporting cast. Next year you will have a C who drastically improves your defense and you will also have a lottery pick to address possibly your need for a more defensive minded guard and you also have a decent defensive SF. To me I think the team will be in better shape next year.

Look at this lineup:

PG: Curry/Robinson
SG: Thompson/Draft Pick
SF: Jefferson/Wright/McGuire
PF: Lee/Draft Pick or Free Agent?
C: Bogut/Biedrins

That's a pretty decent lineup in my opinion and has a lot more potential than the team this year. I don't care how close they got, they weren't making the playoffs with that atrocious defense and trying to compete against teams that are much better than them (Jazz, Rockets, Nuggets).
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Lancet come back, we hardly knew ye.
Justtitans was 90% of the way there. S/he was just premature to judge Klay's defense based on his rookie work.
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Old 06-19-2018, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Justtitans was 90% of the way there. S/he was just premature to judge Klay's defense based on his rookie work.
That’s one thing (maybe the only thing) where Jackson deserves credit...turning the team into a defensive-minded unit and getting them to develop a scrappy style of play while they were still young.
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