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Old 04-25-2012, 02:27 PM
 
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that list was only made because mutombo broke lebrons face.had it been someone else that list might not be anywhere but in some research guys head. i wonder how many more should be on that mutombo list.
Good points in both of those posts.

Without question Mutumbo, while a tough physical player, is one heckuva guy off the court.

I had a co-worker that used to make fun of how he talked etc.
I would ask him how he would sound speaking his 7th best language.

One of the smarter players in NBA history....they'd do well to roust Billy Hunter and his family from operating the NBA players union and replace him with a guy like that.
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Old 04-25-2012, 03:05 PM
 
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For someone with a name like Metta World Peace this is the last thing I'd expect him to do
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Old 04-25-2012, 03:12 PM
 
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I hope the Lakers get Big D for the first round. The Mavs will go w a smaller line up and smack the crap out of the Lakers. The Lakers will be out fast w/o Chaos. Too bad he had to act like a maniac and go back to the nutt formerly known as 'Artest'...More like Arrest. Im also curious about all of these past suspensions that everyone tries to compare this too? I would like to see a past gif that is equal to what happened here when the ball was not in play. The replays are so obvious to everyone. I think the penalty is fine for what happened, but in Rons 'head'case....The dude shouldnt be playing ball and work for charity, maybe get another rename?

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Old 04-25-2012, 03:42 PM
 
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Good points in both of those posts.

Without question Mutumbo, while a tough physical player, is one heckuva guy off the court.

I had a co-worker that used to make fun of how he talked etc.
I would ask him how he would sound speaking his 7th best language.


One of the smarter players in NBA history....they'd do well to roust Billy Hunter and his family from operating the NBA players union and replace him with a guy like that.
Cookie Monster!
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Old 04-25-2012, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Bedford, TX
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oh i agree one doesnt fit the other, and 2 wrongs dont make a right (but 3 lefts do)

my point is while i dont think 7 is enough, i also think that people are going a bit over board with the scenario because of who it is and his perceived image/reputation.

mutombos elbow where notorious BUT he was/is such a huge "nice guy" always helping people and and children and what not that he sorta got a pass. that list is actually a short list.

you talk about mutombo letting his pride get the best of him, and yet artest let his emotions get the best of him, whats the difference?

how about jason smith getting 2 games for his foul on the NBA golden child blake griffen? that long enough?

how about eduardo najera literally getting his scull cracked open on an elbow and that guy didnt even get a foul called.

my point once again is people are taking artest as a thug because of his image and his personality. there is not 2-5 people on this board now that can say they would not stand up for themselves if someone threw a beer all over you. and if you are the type to not stand up for yourself then come here cause i got a beer i want you to prove it. sure he has mental issues (already documented) and sure he has a terrible PR guy (if he even has one) but IMO a lot of people are blowing this WAY out of the spectrum of reality. i think the nba looked at everything and i think they took PART of his history and fined/suspended him partially on that and partially on the "what if that was someone else not artest throwing the elbow" and split the difference. had that elbow been from kobe he would have gotten 2 games max, and he has brough as much or more heat to the nba then artest in the past.
Like you said, we cannot/should not compare Artest to anyone else.

As for why we should take someones history into consideration. There's a famous saying that goes, "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." Well, the NBA have ignored the history of Artest and low and behold, it keeps repeating itself.

Ask the British if they'd take a do over on how they handled the Germans after World War I. See World War II.

What if he really hurts someone bad some day? Ends their career. Permanently disables them. Should he get 7 games off, that's OK with you?

Just wondering.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:37 PM
 
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What if he really hurts someone bad some day? Ends their career. Permanently disables them. Should he get 7 games off, that's OK with you?

Just wondering.
Since that's not what happened why would anyone care?!?! I mean really!!
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:53 PM
 
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so once again i point out that the NORMAL suspension for this type of thing is TWO games. artest got 7, and the bulk of that is because of his history.

here is a list of all fines and suspensions in the nba.
NBA Fines and Suspensions

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11-12

4/24/12
The NBA suspended Metta World Peace (LAL) for 7 games for elbowing James
Harden (OKC) in the head during Sunday's OKC-LAL game. The suspension
will take placed for the Lakers' last regular season game and first 6
playoff games [if the Lakers were to lose in less than 6 games, then the
remaining suspension games would occur at the start of the 12-13 regular
season].

4/23/12
The NBA fined Doug Collins (Phi) $15,000 for verbal abuse of a ref.

4/20/12
The NBA suspended Larry Sanders (Mil) for 2 games for starting an
altercation and failing to leave the court in a timely manner during
Thursday's Ind-Mil game. The NBA fined Danny Granger (Ind) and David West
(Ind) $25,000 each for their roles in the altercation.

4/18/12
The NBA fined Delonte West (Dal) $25,000 for giving Gordon Hayward (Uta) a
wet willy (poking him in the ear with a finger) during Monday's Dal-Uta
game.

4/9/12
Orlando suspended Chris Duhon for 1 game for violating team rules.

4/6/12
The NBA fined DeMarcus Cousins (Sac) $25,000 for publicly criticizing the
refs after Thursday's Sac-LAC game.

3/30/12
The NBA fined Reggie Evans (LAC) $25,000 for making an obscene gesture
during Monday's LAC-NO game.

3/28/12
The NBA fined Glenn Davis (Orl) $35,000 for making an obscene gesture
during Monday's Orl-Tor game.

3/24/12
The NBA suspended Arron Afflalo (Den) for 1 game for throwing an elbow to
Gordon Hayward's (Uta) head during Friday's Den-Uta game.

3/23/12
The NBA suspended Jason Smith (NO) for 2 games for his flagrant foul on
Blake Griffin (LAC) during Thursday's LAC-NO game.

3/19/12
The NBA fined Patrick Patterson (Hou) $25,000 for criticizing the refs in
comments he made on Twitter.

3/13/12
The NBA fined Derrick Rose (Chi) $25,000 for criticizing the refs
following Monday's Chi-NY game.

3/10/12
The NBA fined J.R. Smith (NY) $25,000 for posting a picture of a scantily
clad woman on his Twitter account.

3/9/12
The NBA suspended Hedo Turkoglu (Orl) for 1 game for making contact with a
ref during Thursday's Orl-Chi game.

3/7/12
The NBA fined Jason Kidd (Dal) $25,000 for criticizing the refs following
Monday's Dal-OKC game.

2/20/12
The NBA suspended Rajon Rondo (Bos) for 2 games for throwing a ball at a
ref during Sunday's Bos-Det game.

2/15/12
The NBA fined Howard Eisley (LAC assistant coach) $15,000 for verbally
abusing a ref during Monday's Dal-LAC game.

2/6/12
The NBA suspended Kevin Love (Min) for 2 games for stomping on the upper
body of Luis Scola (Hou) while Scola was on the floor during Saturday's
Min-Hou game.

2/6/12
The NBA fined LA Lakers coach Mike Brown $25,000 and suspended him for 1
game for making contact with a ref and failing to leave the court in a
timely manner following his ejection during Saturday's LAL-Uta game.

2/3/12
The NBA fined Dallas owner Mark Cuban $75,000 for criticizing the refs
following Wednesday's Dal-OKC game.

2/3/12
The NBA fined Dallas coach Rick Carlisle $35,000 for kicking the ball
into the stands during Wednesday's Dal-OKC game.

2/3/12
Orlando suspended Glen Davis for 2 games for conduct detrimental to the
team. Davis reportedly got in a verbal argument with the head coach in
practice.

1/28/12
The NBA suspended Stephen Jackson (Mil) for 1 game for verbally abusing
the ref and failure to leave the court in a timely manner during Friday's
Mil-Chi game.

1/25/12
The NBA suspended Robin Lopez (Pho) for 1 game for making contact with a
ref during Tuesday's Pho-Tor game.

1/21/12
The NBA fined Derrick Favors (Uta) $25,000 for throwing the ball in to the
standings during Thursday's Dal-Uta game.

1/20/12
Milwaukee suspended Stephen Jackson for 1 game for missing Friday
morning's shootaround.

1/2/12
The NBA fined Josh Howard (Uta) $25,000 for his flagrant foul on James
Anderson (SA) during Saturday's Uta-SA game.

12/27/11
The NBA suspended Drew Gooden (Mil) for 1 game for his flagrant foul on
Gerald Henderson (Cha) during Tuesday's Cha-Mil games.

12/23/11
Due to the lockout shorten season, the NBA reduced Andrew Bynum's (LAL) 5
game suspension to 4 games and Charlie Villanueva's (Det) 5 game
suspension to 4 games. Bynum's suspension is from a flagrant foul on an
airborn J.J. Barea (then with Dal) during Game 4 of the LAL-Dal series in
the 2nd round of the playoffs. Villanueva's suspension is from an
altercation with Ryan Hollins (Cle) and trying to go after Hollins in the
lockerroom in the 4/11/11 Det-Cle regular season game. Villanueva served
1 game of the suspension at the end of last season and will serve the
remaining 3 games at the start of the 11-12 season.

10/31/11
The NBA fined Miami owner Micky Arlson $500,000 for comments he made about
the collective bargaining process on his Twitter account [all teams'
personal are prohibited from making public comments about the lockout and
negotiations].

9/12/11
The NBA fined Charlotte owner Michael Jordan an undisclosed about
(reported to be $100,000) for public comments he made about the collective
bargaining process.
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Old 04-25-2012, 04:56 PM
 
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now notice afflalo got 1 game for throwing an elbow at haywards head.

notice kevin love got 2 games for stepping on scolas head. (imo worse then artests elbow)

the more i look at it, the more i watch the footage and see the time that 7 games seems more then fair.
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:14 PM
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Artest's a douche. It'll be fun watching him ruin his life and fall to pieces very quickly when his career is over.
Actually, he has been a pretty good citizen off the court minus the deal with the wife back in Sacramento years ago. He could have a short MMA career even at 35 yrs old with proper training. Dana White should jump all over this when Ron retires. Then again, Ron might not want to be associated with anything that involves fighting which could further destroy reputation.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:16 AM
 
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Artest is a disgrace. Just get rid of him...enough is enough. I've had it with these professional athletes disgusting behavior. Artest knew exactly what he was doing.
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