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Old 05-22-2012, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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The Lakers had to learn a new system and don't have a good bench.

I hope the Lakers address these concerns.
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Old 05-22-2012, 12:26 PM
 
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wtf@ the hate on reggie. reggie miller isn't going anywhere.
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Old 05-22-2012, 01:10 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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Actually, Lakers won 11 in 2001 Playoffs. 3-0 over Portland, 4-0 over Kings, and 4-0 over Spurs. Lost game 1 of NBA Finals to Philly, but won the remaining 4.
excuse me, damn typing and driving has to be bad in houston traffic.
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Old 05-22-2012, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Cook County
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I'm interested to see how Granger behaves tonight. Im all for trying to get in LeBrons head, but Granger has been quite the meatball this series. I'm wondering how quick the refs will T him up if he gets in peoples faces again. Or maybe - some goon off Miamis bench will mug him on a fast break type scenario. Not saying I advocate that, but I feel like something has to happen with him tonight.
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Old 05-22-2012, 02:55 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Arest got ball (and a little more) with his right hand. An excellent playoff foul.

HOWEVER, his left hand went on the guys right shoulder and then pushed the guy out of bounds. That's what got Artest an F1.

It's the unwarranted extra shove that got the call there.

Oh, and then MWP went up and screamed BULLSHAT in the refs face getting him a technical.
At that point he should have just got himself ejected on purpose since the game was out of reach and they were not coming back. Kind of like what Bynum did last year.
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Old 05-22-2012, 02:58 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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I'm interested to see how Granger behaves tonight. Im all for trying to get in LeBrons head, but Granger has been quite the meatball this series. I'm wondering how quick the refs will T him up if he gets in peoples faces again. Or maybe - some goon off Miamis bench will mug him on a fast break type scenario. Not saying I advocate that, but I feel like something has to happen with him tonight.
That sounds like a good strategy to me, have Juwon Howard come off the bench and pop Granger real good. I still don't like how Lebron won't stand up for himself and constantly letting Granger PUNK him on the court. That's why Granger keeps doing it because Lebron won't respond to him which is stupid.
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Old 05-22-2012, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Earth
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That sounds like a good strategy to me, have Juwon Howard come off the bench and pop Granger real good. I still don't like how Lebron won't stand up for himself and constantly letting Granger PUNK him on the court. That's why Granger keeps doing it because Lebron won't respond to him which is stupid.
Meh....Lebron knows that Granger is trying to bait him into some kind of exchange. Sorry, who do you think is the loser if those two get into something and get ejected? The Pacers or the Heat? I'm thinking Miami is much worse off. Lebron responded with 40 points, 18 rebounds, and 9 assists. I'd call that 'punkng' your opponent just fine.
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:44 PM
 
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I saw that on the air, interesting indeed. I'd have to say Jordan having 2 rings in 100 games is the most impressive out of the lot, considering that he joined a terrible Bulls team that was built to a championship level over 6 years. Magic and Bird were both drafted to considerably more talented teams, giving them infinitely better opportunities to win right from the outset. Lebron joined the Cavs under comparable circumstances to Jordan joining the Bulls.
The Cavaliers were a terrible team without LeBron James. No supporting cast whatsoever. Average role players who played well enough to free up LeBron to score at various points of the game, but Bird, Magic, and Jordan had other great - not just good but great - players to pick up the slack. I would agree that Jordan's '91-93 Bulls teams are the next weakest when compared to LeBron's Cavs, but Pippen could take over a game, and he was an outstanding defender - MJ's equal in that regard. And the Bulls from 96-98 were a great team, with a more solid cast of players, even if Rodman was a wee bit bizarre.

However, LeBron's on a real team now, so that argument can only go so far. It's understood that it takes time for a team to gel, but if he goes two or three more years without a title, then it becomes an issue. Of course, it'll be less of an issue of LeBron then goes on to win three titles in four seasons or something equivalent.
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:51 PM
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The Pacers are getting stumped tonight like i expected and will be down 3-2 after tonight. The big reason is because Battier has 12 points
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:54 PM
 
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On last nights Lakers game:

1. Artest with his left hand clearly shoved and deserved a flagrant 1. The announcers were all "Oh that's a reputation call his right hand was clearly on the ball blah blah blah". It was extremely bad announcing that no one pointed out the other hand.

2. Can we put all of the blame on Gasol? I mean he had 14-16, his 3rd double double of the 5 games.

3. Kobe had a beastly night. Again, the announcers made a horribly stupid comment about how Lebron's big night might be motivating Kobe. What a stupid, stupid comment as if he needs that to motivate him.

4. The Lakers should take note of the OKC fan fervor. I know they love their stars but sadly so many people in the lower stands are celebs, aspiring actresses and whatnot....many of which have no clue. (No offense to Jack). They should have a section every once in a while down-low that they have a contest to come and get a free ticket too...like a fanatics section. I KNOW the Lakers have passionate fans, they just can't afford those tix.
I'm becoming a fan of OKC basketball. Not that I'm switching loyalties here - definitely not. But I mean that I know the city is getting behind the team. What's crazy is that OKC is right in the middle of football country, and yet the team is obviously a hit with the locals. I hope OKC can win a title before the Westbrook and Durant inevitably begin looking for bigger markets in which to get bigger endorsement deals and media limelight.

As for the Lakers, man, I wish Kobe would just shut up. I've actually been among his staunchest defenders, but it's nauseating to read about him putting the headlines he has out in front of everyone. Maybe I was naive, but I really thought he had outgrown making his teammates the fall guy like he basically did in 2003 and 2004 when they flamed out against the Spurs and Pistons, but I guess not. At it again, I reckon, and that is surely the end of the line for Gasol - and maybe Bynum as well, though my guess is that Kobe will insist on trying to mold him. It's not like Kobe by himself ever had that ability, though; the Lakers were nothing without Phil Jackson, who was the one who did the real dirty work of mentoring players. Kobe just whines and moans when he hogs the ball.
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