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View Poll Results: Orlando Magic Trading Dwight Howard for Bynum good deal?
Yes For Orlando 0 0%
Yes For L.A. 17 70.83%
Yes For Both Teams 4 16.67%
No For Neither Team 3 12.50%
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Old 07-23-2012, 06:52 AM
 
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The NY Knicks have some of the most loyal NBA fans in the country. They haven't won a tile since the 1970's and they still have great attendance. If you think the Nets will instantly become more popular than the Knicks then you are sadly mistaken and know nothing about New York Sports fans.


I'm pretty sure the GM of the Chicago White Sox thought that to after they won the World Series title back in 2005 and yet the Chicago Cubs still have a larger fanbase in the city.
The Knicks have attendance because they were the only game in town and have a HUGE population (with money) to draw from.

There are *many* disgruntled Knicks fans and they recognize that their current team is at best a 1st round playoff loser for at least 3 more years.

I agree that the Nets wouldn't catch on overnight but if they make in-roads with the youth, many will jump ship permanently and NY is a trendy city where a youth surge could make the Nets "the team".

Lastly, the NY media hates the Dolans. So much so that the Dolans stopped talking to them and even put restrictions on player interviews. The NY media will jump on the Nets bandwagon while grinding the Knicks to paste. It's what they do.

 
Old 07-24-2012, 10:44 AM
 
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One factor to be possibly considered is Howard's willingness (thus far) to only want to sign an extension with the Nets, if traded. It is why the Lakers (and almost any other team) will not take a chance with making such a trade. If Howard continues to pledge long term loyalty only to the Nets, then the Magic will have to re-visit the idea of trading Howard after January 15th, 2013, which is when the Nets can offer Brook Lopez as the centerpiece of a package deal to the Magic. Howard then only has to wait until season's end to gain his freedom, and sign with the Nets. If the Magic refuse to trade Howard between January 15th and the trade deadline, their last leverage is gone. Keep in mind this only holds if Howard remains steadfast in going to the Nets.
 
Old 07-30-2012, 08:55 PM
 
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If he agrees to an extension, DH is much better for many reasons. Number 1, he is a better scorer and the big #2, is that he isn't a cancer to team chemistry like Bynum. Bynum's immaturity flares up here and there.
I don't see how you can say Dwight Howard isn't locker room cancer considering the drama that surrounded him last year lead to the coach and general manager getting canned due to their inability to handle the circus he created.

He could have just kept his mouth shut and played but no the drama as almost constant. The management and ownership of the Orlando Magic did a really poor job handling the situation. They should have gotten a couple of #1 picks and some decent veterans with expiring contracts and just unloaded him.

Now they are desperate to get rid of him and they won't get full value.
 
Old 07-31-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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I don't see how you can say Dwight Howard isn't locker room cancer considering the drama that surrounded him last year lead to the coach and general manager getting canned due to their inability to handle the circus he created.

He could have just kept his mouth shut and played but no the drama as almost constant. The management and ownership of the Orlando Magic did a really poor job handling the situation. They should have gotten a couple of #1 picks and some decent veterans with expiring contracts and just unloaded him.

Now they are desperate to get rid of him and they won't get full value.
While Dwight has been visibly and vocally frustrated and hasn't handled it well.....

The Magic have made a SERIES of huge management blunders. They've been one of the worst run franchises in the NBA with their only claim to fame being lucky enough to get the #1 pick the year Dwight came out.

They didn't just handle this situation poorly but pretty much most of their previous personnel decisions etc etc.

Dwight is still of enormous value, I just think it's hard to get *decent* #1 picks from anyone that he'd be willing to go to since they will likely be drafting >20th in the first round in the future.
 
Old 08-02-2012, 06:37 PM
 
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While Dwight has been visibly and vocally frustrated and hasn't handled it well.....

The Magic have made a SERIES of huge management blunders. They've been one of the worst run franchises in the NBA with their only claim to fame being lucky enough to get the #1 pick the year Dwight came out.

They didn't just handle this situation poorly but pretty much most of their previous personnel decisions etc etc.

Dwight is still of enormous value, I just think it's hard to get *decent* #1 picks from anyone that he'd be willing to go to since they will likely be drafting >20th in the first round in the future.
What mainly hurts Dwight Howard is his stubbornness/immaturity to only sign an extension with the Brooklyn Nets. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut or just say that he might sign an extension with another team so that the media would get off his back. It would be so hilarious if the Magic traded him to the worst team in the NBA and then in the following year when he is a free agent, the Nets weren't able to sign him because of Cap Space.
 
Old 08-02-2012, 07:59 PM
 
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What mainly hurts Dwight Howard is his stubbornness/immaturity to only sign an extension with the Brooklyn Nets. All he had to do was keep his mouth shut or just say that he might sign an extension with another team so that the media would get off his back. It would be so hilarious if the Magic traded him to the worst team in the NBA and then in the following year when he is a free agent, the Nets weren't able to sign him because of Cap Space.
As long as the Nets have their amnesty clause, they can make room for Dwight.
They can also throw some a pick or three in to create cap room.

Basically, I think if Dwight wants to go somewhere, most teams would make the room somehow.

I have ZERO idea about what is going on with Dwight. It's a complete mystery so pass the popcorn.
 
Old 08-07-2012, 12:33 PM
 
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Howard To Miss Own Basketball Camp NBA.com | Hang Time Blog


Not cool, Dwight. Not cool.....
 
Old 08-07-2012, 01:31 PM
 
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That's pretty bad. Its not like he actually has to play at the camp. All he had to do was basically show up, maybe give a word of encouragement to the kids participating and that's it. He couldn't even do that.
 
Old 08-07-2012, 02:00 PM
 
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That's pretty bad. Its not like he actually has to play at the camp. All he had to do was basically show up, maybe give a word of encouragement to the kids participating and that's it. He couldn't even do that.
He's showing himself more and more to be a drama-queen prima donna. As much as he provides on-court, there are some glaring character issues coming out that should make his suitors wary.
 
Old 08-07-2012, 03:57 PM
 
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Meh, who cares? The kids will do fine without Dwight
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