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Old 02-06-2013, 09:12 PM
 
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Well, Orlando is 14-35.

Congratulations on getting rid of Dwight Howard.

I mean, it had to be his attitude and fault and not that you signed hedo and of course Arenas and so forth.

Hopefully the Lakers will be rid of Dwight soon too....as they don't need him and he is the problem with the team.

Just pointing out how much the team has cratered since Dwight left, especially with some of the hillarious commentary floating around in various threads about him.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:49 AM
 
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Well, Orlando is 14-35.

Congratulations on getting rid of Dwight Howard.

I mean, it had to be his attitude and fault and not that you signed hedo and of course Arenas and so forth.

Hopefully the Lakers will be rid of Dwight soon too....as they don't need him and he is the problem with the team.

Just pointing out how much the team has cratered since Dwight left, especially with some of the hillarious commentary floating around in various threads about him.
He's garbage. He's slow and doesn't hustle for loose balls/rebounds. The only rebounds he seems to get are the ones where he is taller or stronger than the other player. If he was 6'8 he would be useless. He doesn't have any post moves that scare anyone defending him. He's just another big body. The Magic would have sucked with Howard this year as well. Were they 'that' good last year with him? The Lakers have him, Nash, Pau, and Kobe and they still can't win. Howard was out there tonight against Boston when the Lakers got blown out. He's simply not that good.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:09 AM
 
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there is that little mater of he let kobe talk him into coming back from his shoulder injury early, what 3 times now?

dude is going to permanently ruin his body trying to comeback from injury early. he came back early from his back surgery at the start of the season also.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:18 AM
 
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He's garbage. He's slow and doesn't hustle for loose balls/rebounds. The only rebounds he seems to get are the ones where he is taller or stronger than the other player. If he was 6'8 he would be useless. He doesn't have any post moves that scare anyone defending him. He's just another big body. The Magic would have sucked with Howard this year as well. Were they 'that' good last year with him? The Lakers have him, Nash, Pau, and Kobe and they still can't win. Howard was out there tonight against Boston when the Lakers got blown out. He's simply not that good.
That post is so outlandish you pretty much have to be trolling...but out of sheer humor.....

Orlando has fallen from a .561 win percentage and 6th seed last year.....to a .286 win percentage this year.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:19 AM
 
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there is that little mater of he let kobe talk him into coming back from his shoulder injury early, what 3 times now?

dude is going to permanently ruin his body trying to comeback from injury early. he came back early from his back surgery at the start of the season also.
Yeah, he's been playing hurt on and off all season and as we've noted....the Lakers only have 2 solid players and that's Dwight and Kobe.

I watched part of the game last night and Boston was literally daring MWP to shoot. They just sagged off him at every opportunity and ganged up on Kobe, Dwight and the ball.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:23 AM
 
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Certainly he hasn't had the same impact as Shaq when the Lakers acquired him which Lakers fans like myself were hoping for. Possibly he hasn't been 100% healthy due to his back surgery among his other injuries. Whatever the reasons, it will be interesting what the state of the franchise is at seasons end and its not looking good currently.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:54 AM
 
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Certainly he hasn't had the same impact as Shaq when the Lakers acquired him which Lakers fans like myself were hoping for. Possibly he hasn't been 100% healthy due to his back surgery among his other injuries. Whatever the reasons, it will be interesting what the state of the franchise is at seasons end and its not looking good currently.
i think any lakers fan who expected howard to be the next coming of shaq clearly had an unreasonable perspective on who howard is and/or who shaq was. howard has not, will not, could not have the offensive ability of shaq, his defense (when healthy) i would argue is much better then shaq though. shaq was a HUGE body, howard is not, howards game is much more 2nd fiddle while shaq was clearly leading man. to put that type of hope/hype on howard was setting him up for failure before he even got a start.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:22 AM
 
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i think any lakers fan who expected howard to be the next coming of shaq clearly had an unreasonable perspective on who howard is and/or who shaq was. howard has not, will not, could not have the offensive ability of shaq, his defense (when healthy) i would argue is much better then shaq though. shaq was a HUGE body, howard is not, howards game is much more 2nd fiddle while shaq was clearly leading man. to put that type of hope/hype on howard was setting him up for failure before he even got a start.
Well I didn't expect Howard to be Shaq per se, just have the impact where the Lakers were legitimate contenders and a threat in the western conference. Cant put the entire blame on Howard though, theres enough to go around on the team.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:38 AM
 
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Well I didn't expect Howard to be Shaq per se, just have the impact where the Lakers were legitimate contenders and a threat in the western conference. Cant put the entire blame on Howard though, theres enough to go around on the team.
1. Bynum was no slouch and so the upgrade to Howard shouldn't have made the enormous impact that was being hyped. Not to mention coming of injury takes time.

2. Had Kobe been playing his current ball sharing style all season the Lakers would currently be the 7th seed or so IMO.

3. Age and injuries have taken a toll on Nash, MWP, Gasol.

4. The Lakers returned only 3 starters and part of their bench....then changed coaches. Lots of transition and turmoil there cost them games.

Basically, you are 100% correct that there is a lot of blame to go around. Probably the biggest blame could be assigned to fans that had completely unrealistic optimism and then started pointing fingers.

There was no way in heck they were ever a serious threat to OKC with that squad and the odds of them not having major injury challenges were millions to one so that's not even unexpected.
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Old 02-08-2013, 11:41 AM
 
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The Lakers would be much worse off with out Dwight.
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