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Old 05-30-2013, 07:05 AM
 
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I don't know why people say Lebron struggles with physical teams or that he can't handle physical play. He gets fouled harder than probably anyone since Shaq and finishes with contact better than any perimeter player in history. He takes beatings and gets right up and calmly walks over to the free throw line. Guys bounce off of him when he has a full head of steam, even big men, and he doesn't shy away from contact. You can jump on him and wrap your arms around him and he still finishes the play.

He has struggled at times against great defenses. Great defenses tend to be physical. That doesn't mean he struggles against or shies away from physical play. Look at the teams that have given him trouble defensively- mainly the Pistons, Celtics, and Bulls. Those were elite defensive teams with great team defense and great coaching. They gave everyone trouble. Kobe shot 35% against the Pistons in the finals, 40.5% against the Celtics both times, and he's primarily a jump shooter.
I don't get the argument that Lebron struggles with physical play either. He gets hammered going to the rim, and on the occasion he's knocked off his feet, calmly gets up and goes to the line. I'm actually amazed at the restraint he's shown in some instances, because I've seen him get nailed a number of times.
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Old 05-30-2013, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Yeah, LeBron was all-state as WR in high school.
NFL is leaps and bounds different than HS football.
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Old 05-30-2013, 08:17 AM
 
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You must listen to a lot of Taylor Swift.
I'm actually not very fond of her. I'll take real country from the early 90s on back.

Nice way to take a personal shot just because I have a different opinion from you, though

In all seriousness, though. I don't think anybody is arguing that Lebron has the physical tools to be successful in the NFL. He's a freak. But physical tools aren't everything. I just don't think he has the NFL mindset.
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Old 05-30-2013, 10:42 AM
 
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And what is the NFL mindset?
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:13 AM
 
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And what is the NFL mindset?
Mental toughness. Lebron has been shown to sometimes get rattled when facing real adversity. He's also proven to be very insecure about his own greatness. That's what I was pointing out when I mentioned his overreaction to Vogel's comments before the series. Also, I guarantee you that Lebron's NEVER been ridden as hard by coaches as guys in the NFL do. Baskteball players are generally more primma donna. Of course, there are NFL players that are that way too. But there is a much steeper learning curve in the NFL and the NBA. All Lebron needed was to team up with two other stars and then he was able to gang up on the rest of a weak conference. You can't do that in the NFL. It's much more competitively balanced and there is much more parity.
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:47 AM
 
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Mental toughness like Terrell Owens? That's not fair! That's my quaterback! That's my teammate! *wipes tear*

It seems the real reason why you think Lebron couldn't play in the NFL is because you don't like him.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:21 PM
 
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It seems the real reason why you think Lebron couldn't play in the NFL is because you don't like him.
Basically.

But here is what Paul Silas, James' first pro coach, said about him in terms of riding him hard.

NBA.com: Did you ever have to discipline him? Was he ever late to practice?

PS: He never was late or anything like that. He was always one of the first ones there and the last ones to leave. He really worked on his game. Like anything else, during the practice or a course of a game I called all of them out, him included, when he wasn't playing as hard as I thought he could or whatever. I made no differences with him and anybody else. I think I treated him as fairly as anybody.
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Old 05-30-2013, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Mental toughness like Terrell Owens? That's not fair! That's my quaterback! That's my teammate! *wipes tear*

It seems the real reason why you think Lebron couldn't play in the NFL is because you don't like him.
And how many rings did TO win?

He was as much of a wasted talent as anybody.

And, no, I admit that I'm not very fond of Lebron because I feel like he wants everybody to suck up to him despite the fact that he took the easy way out and acted unprofessionally while doing it. Don't hate him as a person. I'm just tired of everybody acting like he doesn't have any flaws in his game and already crowning him GOAT.

If he pulled that, "not one, not two, not three, not four" stuff in the NFL, I guarantee you some teams would light him up for that. He wouldn't be able to bully a weak conference in the NFL like he does now. It's a different world.
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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Terrell Owens is one of the most productive WRs of all-time. To call that guy, who was on the All-Decade Team for the 2000s, a waste of talent is severely misguided.
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Old 05-30-2013, 03:27 PM
 
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Oh , and how did LeBron James act unprofessionally?
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