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View Poll Results: 2013 NBA Champ
Miami Heat 19 26.39%
San Antonio Spurs 53 73.61%
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:38 PM
 
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They are not supposed to let Green get the ball at all and if he does then he should been in no position to shoot a 3 pointer.

You talk as if Green is a Lebron and scored 100 points.
The other four Spurs starters scored in double figures too.
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:39 PM
 
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You talk as if Green is a Lebron and scored 100 points.
The other four Spurs starters scored in double figures too.
The entire starting 5 played great for the Spurs.
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:40 PM
 
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25 of 55 shooting by the Heats big3 is not a bad coaching job by Spoelstra. Heat defense forced, what, 18 TO's?
Danny Green hitting from 5 ft beyond the arc is not bad defense either.
Play calling doesn't affect shooting percentages? It's the coach's job to put the players into position to take good shots, it's the players' job to make them. Both are factors.

Leaving a great 3-point shooter open is not bad defense?
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:45 PM
 
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Play calling doesn't affect shooting percentages? It's the coach's job to put the players into position to take good shots, it's the players' job to make them. Both are factors.

Leaving a great 3-point shooter open is not bad defense?
Forcing a 3 point shooter to take a28+ foot shot is good defense. As a mater of fact, Lebron was on Danny a few times as well as at least 1 double team and green just made his shots.
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:46 PM
 
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Play calling doesn't affect shooting percentages? It's the coach's job to put the players into position to take good shots, it's the players' job to make them. Both are factors.

Leaving a great 3-point shooter open is not bad defense?
I said he was shooting 5ft beyond the arc ... you don't guard that.
How do you know what plays were called? You seem to rate Spoelstra's coaching ability by his facial expression, body language, or whether he yells and screams. The great Phil Jackson hardly ever get off the chair when he coached.
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:49 PM
 
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Play calling doesn't affect shooting percentages? It's the coach's job to put the players into position to take good shots, it's the players' job to make them. Both are factors.

Leaving a great 3-point shooter open is not bad defense?
Well, they allowed the Spurs to shoot a high percentage, not just Green. That goes to the players to a large degree.
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:50 PM
 
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Most of Green's 3s he was pretty open. Most of them the defenders were either confused on switches or late to close out. Maybe he wasn't wide open but when there was a hand in his face it arrived very late. Not enough to affect the shot of an NBA player.

I've never thought Spoelstra was a very good coach. He is hesitant to make adjustments and when he does it's always a reaction to something the other coach has done. Popovich makes moves that put pressure on the other team and force them to react, Spoelstra just reacts to what other coaches do. Every time the camera cuts to him he's standing there with his hands on his hips and that frustrated/puzzled look on his face. Popovich is pacing the sidelines, working the officials, getting into players, while Spoelstra just stands there with that look. Popovich is always lighting a fire under his players, Spoelstra never gets on anyone, and that's probably part of the Heat's lack of a sense of urgency sometimes.

Spoelstra's rotations often don't make sense and the Heat's offense is really bad at times, which I think is probably more a reflection of his coaching than it is bad execution by the players. If he had a great history with other teams before the Heat I might give him the benefit of the doubt on some of these things but this is his only head coaching experience.
I have to disagree with this. I think every coach has their own style. There is no one way to coach a team. Spoelstra's temperament doesn't mean he doesn't care or that he's not getting on his players. He definitely needs to make adjustments sooner, but he has a flawed team that is being exposed. They were fortunate to win a championship last year. It is difficult to win with a true center and being the worst rebound team in the league. Also let's give Pops credit, he's the best coach in the league. He knows how to get maximum effort and he's a excellent X's and O's guy. Honestly if you put him to coach the Indiana Pacers roster, the Heat wouldn't have won that series.
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:51 PM
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I said he was shooting 5ft beyond the arc ... you don't guard that.
How do you know what plays were called? You seem to rate Spoelstra's coaching ability by his facial expression, of body language, or whether he yells and screams. The great Phil Jackson hardly ever get off the chair when he coached.


Again, you compare a coaching fool to a coaching legend. I seen Phil Jackson make an adjustment in the 2001 NBA finals after they lost Game 1 by putting Tyron Lue in the game to chase Iverson all over the place to make him work hard on the offensive end.

That's coaching
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:52 PM
 
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Again, you compare a coaching fool to a coaching legend. I seen Phil Jackson make an adjustment in the 2001 NBA finals after they lost Game 1 by putting Tyron Lue in the game to chase Iverson all over the place to make him work hard on the offensive end.

That's coaching

please learn how to read and determine context.

By the way, what adjustments were you expecting Spoelstra to make tonight that he didn't do?
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Old 06-16-2013, 09:58 PM
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please learn how to read and determine context.

By the way, what adjustments were you expecting Spoelstra to make tonight that he didn't do?

He said in the post game that he knew Ginobli was starting so if that's the case why didn't he have a defensive game plan? And don't even get me started on his poor defensive adjustments when it comes to Danny Green shooting three pointers. The man is not making adjustments at all in this series.
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