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Also, you can expect the Niners to win it all this season. You can cement that on the ground and put it in writing and I'm not the only one that thinks so. Las Vegas puts them at the strongest odds, not the Seahawks.
Also, you can expect the Niners to win it all this season. You can cement that on the ground and put it in writing and I'm not the only one that thinks so. Las Vegas puts them at the strongest odds, not the Seahawks.
What are you talking about? Seattle and San Francisco are at the same exact odds.......
Odds differ from source to source. I would beat on the 49ers with the Receiving core. Kaepernick only played half the season last year. Teams half tape on him now and can implement ways to stop him. He isn't as crafty as Russell Wilson, so i'm not sure if he'll have a superbowl year. Their defense will be the only reason they have a chance at the superbowl.
I haven't read each of the previous 31 pages on this topic, but to get things back on track here, I'll give my top 5 NBA relocation cities for moving into new markets and out of current ones.
Could be relocated
New Orleans: Even with the rebranding efforts, there just doesn't seem to be the population or fan demand for the NBA in New Orleans. I wouldn't be surprised if the actual butts in seats attendance for most Hornets games the last 4 years was less than 5K per game. Take a look at some archived game pics if you don't believe me.
Milwaukee: Hate to say this one because Milwaukee is a pretty good sports town, but the interest for the Bucks just isn't there anymore. Marquette and UW are far more popular when it comes to bball. Milwaukee would be a great city for MLS though. It's kind of like a midwestern version of Portland in a lot of ways.
Atlanta: This will never happen but Atlanta couldn't care much less about their Hawks. Attendance and TV ratings are a joke. Atlanta for the NBA is almost kind of like LA is for the NFL (obvious difference being Atlanta still has its team). There are plenty of NBA fans in Atlanta, just not plenty of diehard Hawks fans. The NBA national games and playoff ratings in Atlanta are great, which is why the NBA will never leave Atlanta, but all of that national love just hasn't transferred to the Hawks.
Charlotte: Like Atlanta, I don't see this happening anytime soon, but also like Atlanta, Bobcats attendance and TV ratings are a joke. At least Charlotte has the excuse of bad bball to fall back on though.
Philadelphia: That's right, I said it. Come at me Philly! This won't ever happen because of the large market, but Philly couldn't care less about the Sixers. Attendance has sucked for years. I read a story about a guy in Philly that bought an entire row of upper deck seats to a Sixers game for $1 a seat. Honestly Philly fans, how often do the Sixers come up in regular sports conversation? Philly supports all of its other teams with great numbers and passion, but for whatever reason (and even with some halfway decent teams) the Sixers have lately been the red-headed stepchild of Philly sports.
waiting list: Detroit, Sacramento (after the fans realize how the NBA is totally screwing them over by taking away their rights to revenue sharing)
Cities/Markets that could potentially succeed with an NBA team
Louisville: Make no mistake about it, the YUM Center was not just built for UL. I would be surprised if an NBA team doesn't make its way to Louisville in the next decade. People in Kentucky are absolutely obsessed with college bball, and I suspect that with a decent NBA team, Louisville could become an OKC or Memphis type of home court.
Richmond or Hampton Roads: This area is ready for pro sports, and the NBA is probably the easiest to break into in terms of the amount of fan support needed to sustain the viabillity of the franchise.
Orange County: The population and money are there to make it profitable if anyone has to stones to try and break into the Lakers/Clippers turf.
Seattle: The only fanbase that complains more about its team being taken away from them is Quebec with the Nordiques. The complaints are valid though, Seattle deserves its NBA team back.
2nd Chicago: This one always gets floated around every 5 years or so. Chicago was in the running for both the Hornets and Grizzlies when they relocated awhile back, and the President of the Magic recently said that if Orlando wouldn't have built a new arena for the Magic, they would have relocated to Chicago. There's enough population and bandwagonism in Chicago for a suburban arena/fanbase.
I haven't read each of the previous 31 pages on this topic, but to get things back on track here, I'll give my top 5 NBA relocation cities for moving into new markets and out of current ones.
Could be relocated
New Orleans: Even with the rebranding efforts, there just doesn't seem to be the population or fan demand for the NBA in New Orleans. I wouldn't be surprised if the actual butts in seats attendance for most Hornets games the last 4 years was less than 5K per game. Take a look at some archived game pics if you don't believe me.
Milwaukee: Hate to say this one because Milwaukee is a pretty good sports town, but the interest for the Bucks just isn't there anymore. Marquette and UW are far more popular when it comes to bball. Milwaukee would be a great city for MLS though. It's kind of like a midwestern version of Portland in a lot of ways.
Atlanta: This will never happen but Atlanta couldn't care much less about their Hawks. Attendance and TV ratings are a joke. Atlanta for the NBA is almost kind of like LA is for the NFL (obvious difference being Atlanta still has its team). There are plenty of NBA fans in Atlanta, just not plenty of diehard Hawks fans. The NBA national games and playoff ratings in Atlanta are great, which is why the NBA will never leave Atlanta, but all of that national love just hasn't transferred to the Hawks.
Charlotte: Like Atlanta, I don't see this happening anytime soon, but also like Atlanta, Bobcats attendance and TV ratings are a joke. At least Charlotte has the excuse of bad bball to fall back on though.
Philadelphia: That's right, I said it. Come at me Philly! This won't ever happen because of the large market, but Philly couldn't care less about the Sixers. Attendance has sucked for years. I read a story about a guy in Philly that bought an entire row of upper deck seats to a Sixers game for $1 a seat. Honestly Philly fans, how often do the Sixers come up in regular sports conversation? Philly supports all of its other teams with great numbers and passion, but for whatever reason (and even with some halfway decent teams) the Sixers have lately been the red-headed stepchild of Philly sports.
waiting list: Detroit, Sacramento (after the fans realize how the NBA is totally screwing them over by taking away their rights to revenue sharing)
Cities/Markets that could potentially succeed with an NBA team
Louisville: Make no mistake about it, the YUM Center was not just built for UL. I would be surprised if an NBA team doesn't make its way to Louisville in the next decade. People in Kentucky are absolutely obsessed with college bball, and I suspect that with a decent NBA team, Louisville could become an OKC or Memphis type of home court.
Richmond or Hampton Roads: This area is ready for pro sports, and the NBA is probably the easiest to break into in terms of the amount of fan support needed to sustain the viabillity of the franchise.
Orange County: The population and money are there to make it profitable if anyone has to stones to try and break into the Lakers/Clippers turf.
Seattle: The only fanbase that complains more about its team being taken away from them is Quebec with the Nordiques. The complaints are valid though, Seattle deserves its NBA team back.
2nd Chicago: This one always gets floated around every 5 years or so. Chicago was in the running for both the Hornets and Grizzlies when they relocated awhile back, and the President of the Magic recently said that if Orlando wouldn't have built a new arena for the Magic, they would have relocated to Chicago. There's enough population and bandwagonism in Chicago for a suburban arena/fanbase.
This is a very good analysis, probably the best in this thread. Out of the 1st 5, I would guess that Milwaukee has the strongest chance of being relocated. MJ isn't moving the Hornets from Charlotte, ATL and Philly do OK, and New Orleans just got rebranded so they'll probably see a surge in attendance for a short time. And most likely to get a new team (other than Seattle), probably Hampton Roads.
I haven't read each of the previous 31 pages on this topic, but to get things back on track here, I'll give my top 5 NBA relocation cities for moving into new markets and out of current ones.
Could be relocated
New Orleans: Even with the rebranding efforts, there just doesn't seem to be the population or fan demand for the NBA in New Orleans. I wouldn't be surprised if the actual butts in seats attendance for most Hornets games the last 4 years was less than 5K per game. Take a look at some archived game pics if you don't believe me.
Milwaukee: Hate to say this one because Milwaukee is a pretty good sports town, but the interest for the Bucks just isn't there anymore. Marquette and UW are far more popular when it comes to bball. Milwaukee would be a great city for MLS though. It's kind of like a midwestern version of Portland in a lot of ways.
Atlanta: This will never happen but Atlanta couldn't care much less about their Hawks. Attendance and TV ratings are a joke. Atlanta for the NBA is almost kind of like LA is for the NFL (obvious difference being Atlanta still has its team). There are plenty of NBA fans in Atlanta, just not plenty of diehard Hawks fans. The NBA national games and playoff ratings in Atlanta are great, which is why the NBA will never leave Atlanta, but all of that national love just hasn't transferred to the Hawks.
Charlotte: Like Atlanta, I don't see this happening anytime soon, but also like Atlanta, Bobcats attendance and TV ratings are a joke. At least Charlotte has the excuse of bad bball to fall back on though.
Philadelphia: That's right, I said it. Come at me Philly! This won't ever happen because of the large market, but Philly couldn't care less about the Sixers. Attendance has sucked for years. I read a story about a guy in Philly that bought an entire row of upper deck seats to a Sixers game for $1 a seat. Honestly Philly fans, how often do the Sixers come up in regular sports conversation? Philly supports all of its other teams with great numbers and passion, but for whatever reason (and even with some halfway decent teams) the Sixers have lately been the red-headed stepchild of Philly sports.
waiting list: Detroit, Sacramento (after the fans realize how the NBA is totally screwing them over by taking away their rights to revenue sharing)
Cities/Markets that could potentially succeed with an NBA team
Louisville: Make no mistake about it, the YUM Center was not just built for UL. I would be surprised if an NBA team doesn't make its way to Louisville in the next decade. People in Kentucky are absolutely obsessed with college bball, and I suspect that with a decent NBA team, Louisville could become an OKC or Memphis type of home court.
Richmond or Hampton Roads: This area is ready for pro sports, and the NBA is probably the easiest to break into in terms of the amount of fan support needed to sustain the viabillity of the franchise.
Orange County: The population and money are there to make it profitable if anyone has to stones to try and break into the Lakers/Clippers turf.
Seattle: The only fanbase that complains more about its team being taken away from them is Quebec with the Nordiques. The complaints are valid though, Seattle deserves its NBA team back.
2nd Chicago: This one always gets floated around every 5 years or so. Chicago was in the running for both the Hornets and Grizzlies when they relocated awhile back, and the President of the Magic recently said that if Orlando wouldn't have built a new arena for the Magic, they would have relocated to Chicago. There's enough population and bandwagonism in Chicago for a suburban arena/fanbase.
Any list that puts Philly as one of the cities that could be located, I can't take seriously. Even if the 76ers relocated to a different city, are people from the Philly area suppose to all of a sudden support rival teams like the NY Knicks or the Brooklyn Nets? I would rather root for a California team than ever support a New York City team.
I haven't read each of the previous 31 pages on this topic, but to get things back on track here, I'll give my top 5 NBA relocation cities for moving into new markets and out of current ones.
Could be relocated
New Orleans: Even with the rebranding efforts, there just doesn't seem to be the population or fan demand for the NBA in New Orleans. I wouldn't be surprised if the actual butts in seats attendance for most Hornets games the last 4 years was less than 5K per game. Take a look at some archived game pics if you don't believe me.
Milwaukee: Hate to say this one because Milwaukee is a pretty good sports town, but the interest for the Bucks just isn't there anymore. Marquette and UW are far more popular when it comes to bball. Milwaukee would be a great city for MLS though. It's kind of like a midwestern version of Portland in a lot of ways.
Atlanta: This will never happen but Atlanta couldn't care much less about their Hawks. Attendance and TV ratings are a joke. Atlanta for the NBA is almost kind of like LA is for the NFL (obvious difference being Atlanta still has its team). There are plenty of NBA fans in Atlanta, just not plenty of diehard Hawks fans. The NBA national games and playoff ratings in Atlanta are great, which is why the NBA will never leave Atlanta, but all of that national love just hasn't transferred to the Hawks.
Charlotte: Like Atlanta, I don't see this happening anytime soon, but also like Atlanta, Bobcats attendance and TV ratings are a joke. At least Charlotte has the excuse of bad bball to fall back on though.
Philadelphia: That's right, I said it. Come at me Philly! This won't ever happen because of the large market, but Philly couldn't care less about the Sixers. Attendance has sucked for years. I read a story about a guy in Philly that bought an entire row of upper deck seats to a Sixers game for $1 a seat. Honestly Philly fans, how often do the Sixers come up in regular sports conversation? Philly supports all of its other teams with great numbers and passion, but for whatever reason (and even with some halfway decent teams) the Sixers have lately been the red-headed stepchild of Philly sports.
waiting list: Detroit, Sacramento (after the fans realize how the NBA is totally screwing them over by taking away their rights to revenue sharing)
Cities/Markets that could potentially succeed with an NBA team
Louisville: Make no mistake about it, the YUM Center was not just built for UL. I would be surprised if an NBA team doesn't make its way to Louisville in the next decade. People in Kentucky are absolutely obsessed with college bball, and I suspect that with a decent NBA team, Louisville could become an OKC or Memphis type of home court.
Richmond or Hampton Roads: This area is ready for pro sports, and the NBA is probably the easiest to break into in terms of the amount of fan support needed to sustain the viabillity of the franchise.
Orange County: The population and money are there to make it profitable if anyone has to stones to try and break into the Lakers/Clippers turf.
Seattle: The only fanbase that complains more about its team being taken away from them is Quebec with the Nordiques. The complaints are valid though, Seattle deserves its NBA team back.
2nd Chicago: This one always gets floated around every 5 years or so. Chicago was in the running for both the Hornets and Grizzlies when they relocated awhile back, and the President of the Magic recently said that if Orlando wouldn't have built a new arena for the Magic, they would have relocated to Chicago. There's enough population and bandwagonism in Chicago for a suburban arena/fanbase.
There will be an NBA team in Seattle before they ever consider southern california or a 2nd Team in Chicago. I honestly don't think 2 chicago teams would workout. This works for baseball but those teams have history.They is Diehard Bulls fans in chicago that I KNOW would just start cheering for another team. Plus the Bulls would not agree on splitting the market. NBA just has alot more options then diluting another Market.
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Originally Posted by gwillyfromphilly
Any list that puts Philly as one of the cities that could be located, I can't take seriously. Even if the 76ers relocated to a different city, are people from the Philly area suppose to all of a sudden support rival teams like the NY Knicks or the Brooklyn Nets? I would rather root for a California team than ever support a New York City team.
Thats the point, you don't. Seattle fans didn't just start cheering for Portland. NBA fans watch the NBA but don't have a Real team anymore that they support.
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