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Old 03-24-2014, 07:04 PM
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The NBA Draft is all about evaluating the individual player while the NCAA Tournament is more of a team affair. A first-or-second round exit in the tourney has no bearing on where a player will be drafted. NBA scouts are more interested in the skill set a player brings to the table. Parker and Wiggins have logged enough basketball miles to prove they have the potential to be future stars in the NBA based on the opinions of experts in the field. It would take many more poor showings for them to not be lottery picks in the next draft because they've already been branded as the next great players by the league.

While bad performance in the tourney doesn't hurt a player, it does provide opportunities for players to raise their draft stock. I'm thinking of guys like Patrick O'Bryant, Loren Meyer, Joe Alexander, and Keith Smart, to name a few. They were able to parlay special tournament moments into higher draft positions than they would've received otherwise.

So if the tourney provides an opportunity for a player to raise their draft stock with a good performance, why doesn't a bad performance drop a player's draft stock?
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:02 PM
 
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So if the tourney provides an opportunity for a player to raise their draft stock with a good performance, why doesn't a bad performance drop a player's draft stock?
Because scouts and executives have already decided that certain elite players are going to be high draft picks because of the skill set they can potentially bring to an NBA team. They look more at a total body of work of a player rather than just 1 or 2 tournament games. NBA execs understand that players have bad games. Now if Parker and Wiggins had had bad college seasons, then that would definitely drop their stock. I, however, believe they showed enough for the teams who end up with top picks to take a chance on them.
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:05 PM
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Because scouts and executives have already decided that certain elite players are going to be high draft picks because of the skill set they can potentially bring to an NBA team. They look more at a total body of work of a player rather than just 1 or 2 tournament games. NBA execs understand that players have bad games. Now if Parker and Wiggins had had bad college seasons, then that would definitely drop their stock. I, however, believe they showed enough for the teams who end up with top picks to take a chance on them.

I expect the Bucks and Sixers to still be bad teams in 2016 if they pick either one of these two players
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Old 03-25-2014, 06:09 PM
 
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I'm puzzled by people second guessing Parker. I see s future All-Star. He needs to work on his defense but offensively he is well rounded and complete.
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:05 PM
 
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I'm puzzled by people second guessing Parker. I see s future All-Star. He needs to work on his defense but offensively he is well rounded and complete.

Stupid to second guess him now, is he even 19 yet? Set ACC & Duke records for a freshman...
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:13 PM
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Stupid to second guess him now, is he even 19 yet? Set ACC & Duke records for a freshman...

He can just come back to school next year and build on all that
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Old 03-25-2014, 10:29 PM
 
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He can just come back to school next year and build on all that

I think thats a good idea. Probably be the #1 pick....
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:48 PM
 
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So if the tourney provides an opportunity for a player to raise their draft stock with a good performance, why doesn't a bad performance drop a player's draft stock?
No single answer but I think that the "improve your draft stock" comment is applied to lesser known players at schools outside of the big spotlights or players that maybe were injured during the season etc etc.

I think most of the guys that moniker is applied to are guys that were more towards the end of the 1st round or 2nd round type guys and not the guys already being eyed from a top 5 pick.

Consider that MOST top picks are very very young and are being drafted on potential.

Their draft stock doesn't move much based upon that kind of stuff.

Now if they show a bad attitude, uncoachable, get in trouble off-court....that hurts them way more.
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Old 03-26-2014, 12:50 PM
 
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He can just come back to school next year and build on all that
Or go to the NBA right now and make >3million a year for a couple years at least.
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Old 03-26-2014, 03:18 PM
 
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He can just come back to school next year and build on all that

Why?
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