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Old 06-09-2014, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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ugh chalmers! when the spurs passed him up in the draft i wasnt real happy. kinda glad they did the last couple of years.



and of course heat fans got nothing so they are trying to make "parkering" happen. kinda weak lol.
Chalmers has his moments, but he isn't that great. There's a reason why his only play of value last night was the cheap shot.
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Old 06-09-2014, 12:12 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Chalmers has his moments, but he isn't that great. There's a reason why his only play of value last night was the cheap shot.
He has always been the heat weakest link
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Old 06-09-2014, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Is it just me or did duncan look like he missed those free throws on purpose? Lol
The old man ran out of gas.
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Old 06-09-2014, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Earth
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He scored 35, so I guess that makes him Hercules in your book.
No need to be salty. My point was that Lebron, in 5 finals appearances, has only scored that many points once. And especially against the Spurs defense in the finals, I would call it a herculean effort if anyone had the game he had last night, especially that third quarter.
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Old 06-09-2014, 05:15 PM
 
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If Duncan is regarded by many as greatest PF ever, why isn't he getting heavily criticized for missing those two critical foul shots last night?

I mean, Duncan is a 4-time champion, MVP and widely revered in the NBA. Yet, when he fails in big moments like last night and missing a bunny in Game 7 of the Finals that would have tied the game late, there seems to be more pity for him than criticism.
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Old 06-09-2014, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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If Duncan is regarded by many as greatest PF ever, why isn't he getting heavily criticized for missing those two critical foul shots last night?

I mean, Duncan is a 4-time champion, MVP and widely revered in the NBA. Yet, when he fails in big moments like last night and missing a bunny in Game 7 of the Finals that would have tied the game late, there seems to be more pity for him than criticism.
Why? Because you yourself said it -- he is a 4 time champ, MVP, and has already enough accomplishments. He's proven himself. He basically single handedly put away the Thunder in Game 6. Not to mention that the man is farkin' 38 years old and balling out of his mind. He's exceeded his shelf life. He's respected because he's earned it. Nuff said. He doesn't have to prove anything to anyone other than himself, really.
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Old 06-09-2014, 06:57 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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Why? Because you yourself said it -- he is a 4 time champ, MVP, and has already enough accomplishments. He's proven himself. He basically single handedly put away the Thunder in Game 6. Not to mention that the man is farkin' 38 years old and balling out of his mind. He's exceeded his shelf life. He's respected because he's earned it. Nuff said. He doesn't have to prove anything to anyone other than himself, really.
I think more his age than anything. If we are talking 28-29 yr old Duncan, then he would get smashed in the media.
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Old 06-09-2014, 07:12 PM
 
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If Duncan is regarded by many as greatest PF ever, why isn't he getting heavily criticized for missing those two critical foul shots last night?
Weren't you listening, when it was brought up how Duncan acted like a Bilderberg towards Ginobili and Tony when they each first got there? And when Mark Jackson asked why Duncan was exonerated for that, yet Bryant got/gets crucified for doing the same towards Smush Parker? JVG basically said that when the media decides they wanna portray you a certain way, that's exactly what they're gonna do. And that's ultimately how these people will be remembered.

Just take a look at NBA history, look how Chamberlain is still regarded after all these years, Isiah Thomas, Karl Malone, Elvin Hayes, Allen Iverson. A player's legacy is as good as their relationship with the media, and the casual fanbase (which unfortunately makes up the vast majority of the fanbase. The same people who believe Chamberlain and Russell would suck today, and had "inflated" stats). Then look at how Michael Jordan's portrayed, how Magic and Bird are portrayed, and they're not any more perfect, and have their flaws just like everyone else. Gotta be a media darling, and kiss their ***
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Old 06-09-2014, 09:08 PM
 
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Why? Because you yourself said it -- he is a 4 time champ, MVP, and has already enough accomplishments. He's proven himself. He basically single handedly put away the Thunder in Game 6. Not to mention that the man is farkin' 38 years old and balling out of his mind. He's exceeded his shelf life. He's respected because he's earned it. Nuff said. He doesn't have to prove anything to anyone other than himself, really.
Well, LeBron has won two NBA titles, four MVPs (should be five ex. 2010-11 season), two NBA Finals MVPs and two Olympic Golds and people can't wait to kill him. Can't wait. Regarded as the best player in the world. Always has something to prove. He's playing against ghosts. He's playing against cats who retired 10, 20 and 30 years ago. He's playing against our memories. He, like Duncan, shouldn't have anything to prove. But, every single game is seemingly a referendum on his career and his legacy.

He passes the ball to Bosh against the Pacers (after drawing a double team) the Heat lose, and he gets heavily criticized for it. He can't finish Game 1 because his body shut down (after playing the most minutes of any other player on the floor in a building where the temperature was above 90 degrees while leading all scorers in points), and he gets called all sorts of names and his desire is questioned even though no other player on the court is asked to take on the same responsibilities as him.

Yet, we give Tim Duncan -- "The Big Fundamental" who is always lauded for doing everything the right way -- a pass for failing in the biggest of moments. It shouldn't matter whether Duncan is 38 or 28. If people are going to praise him for closing out the Thunder at 38, then he should be equally as criticized for missing two big foul shots the NBA Finals.
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Old 06-09-2014, 09:12 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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League did the right thing.

NBA Dwyane Wade fined $5,000 - ESPN
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