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Ok, so let's hear your prediction because it seems you aren't understanding the point I'm trying to make.
Mine is that the Lakers current talent level and lack of tradeable picks will keep them in the cellar for another 4 years or more as they struggle to add meaningful free agent talent. They might add *some* talent but not enough to be back in the playoffs like any sort of "super team" fast rebuild.
You point seems to be that the Lakers, regardless of their draft picks (and thus being screwed at getting anything but UFA's) is just so desirable that what free agents are available and unrestricted will flock there despite the teams ability to put other talent with them.
If that's not correct, then give us an estimate of what they'll be able to attract and how fast they'll be back in the playoffs or at least a win total for the 2017 season?
4 years WITHOUT the playoffs? You are on and I will even count this year. The most significant positive move this offseason will be Kobe's retirement.
I'm not saying they will hang championship banners in that four year window. All I'm saying for anyone to dismiss the fact that they can't and won't attract top end superstar talent is going a little too far.
The Lakers can build through UFA's. Many teams cannot. The LA market is what it is. The history of the franchise- many franchises aren't even close.
4 years WITHOUT the playoffs? You are on and I will even count this year. The most significant positive move this offseason will be Kobe's retirement.
I'm not saying they will hang championship banners in that four year window. All I'm saying for anyone to dismiss the fact that they can't and won't attract top end superstar talent is going a little too far.
The Lakers can build through UFA's. Many teams cannot. The LA market is what it is. The history of the franchise- many franchises aren't even close.
We'll see, have you noticed any change at all in recent years in terms of the teams quality of decision making?
Why are the Clippers the Clippers and the Lakers the Lakers in the first place? Dr. Buss RIP.
All evidence suggests that the Lakers are entering an era where their management is arguably incompetent instead of the smart ownership they enjoyed for decades prior.
This is the owner that put guys like Riley and Jackson at the helm...brought in Kareem and Shaq and a host of other incredible moves.
We're going to find out just how much glitter he built up can carry that clown car making the decisions there now.
We'll see, have you noticed any change at all in recent years in terms of the teams quality of decision making?
Why are the Clippers the Clippers and the Lakers the Lakers in the first place? Dr. Buss RIP.
All evidence suggests that the Lakers are entering an era where their management is arguably incompetent instead of the smart ownership they enjoyed for decades prior.
This is the owner that put guys like Riley and Jackson at the helm...brought in Kareem and Shaq and a host of other incredible moves.
We're going to find out just how much glitter he built up can carry that clown car making the decisions there now.
I'm not even focusing on the current roster. I think they have a few pieces at the moment and a ton of cap room. That's nice. Again, the best decision was Kobe saying "I'm retiring". It makes room for a new Era and it needed to be this way for a few years now.
I'm not expecting Kareem and then the Shaq era level of excellence especially during your four year window, but legacy and tradition have already been built.
The reason that you state "All evidence suggests that the Lakers are entering an era where their management is arguably incompetent instead of the smart ownership they enjoyed for decades prior." All fine and dandy and I agree it will difficult to replicate their previous success.
incompetent owners build teams too - (Gilbert)
But...
There is no reason to believe the Lakers can't promote Part 3 and sell the story along with the idea of living in LA to Superstar basketball player and then attract others through Free agency.
I'm not even focusing on the current roster. I think they have a few pieces at the moment and a ton of cap room. That's nice. Again, the best decision was Kobe saying "I'm retiring". It makes room for a new Era and it needed to be this way for a few years now.
I'm not expecting Kareem and then the Shaq era level of excellence especially during your four year window, but legacy and tradition have already been built.
The reason that you state "All evidence suggests that the Lakers are entering an era where their management is arguably incompetent instead of the smart ownership they enjoyed for decades prior." All fine and dandy and I agree it will difficult to replicate their previous success.
incompetent owners build teams too - (Gilbert)
But...
There is no reason to believe the Lakers can't promote Part 3 and sell the story along with the idea of living in LA to Superstar basketball player and then attract others through Free agency.
Also have to walk into Kobe's shoes with sky-high expectations, a crap roster and little to no trade-bait....oh, and they're being sought after by every team in the NBA.
They arguably have to improve the team about 30ish wins.
You're basically having to find a superstar to spend their prime years guiding them out of a rebuild they haven't even stocked up on draft picks from when they could be competing for championships while promising you'll pick up other Unrestricted free agents sometime down the road because good ones aren't always mobile and available.
P.S. State tax levels are nothing to sneeze at either.
This first free agency however should really tell you something about just how much cache and desire people have to come try to drag a bunch of scrubs up a hill.
Basically, if they bomb in this first free agency....what does that hint at for future years?
Harrison Barnes might be on the market. He turned down a 5-year, $18/m-per offer this past summer and with his unimpressive numbers so far this season might not be on the roster after June.
Harrison Barnes might be on the market. He turned down a 5-year, $18/m-per offer this past summer and with his unimpressive numbers so far this season might not be on the roster after June.
I think he'd be overpaid. He'd be in the top 20 highest paid (at least for 2015-2016) if he would have accepted 18 mil per. Not worth it.
boy looking at that list leonard looks more and more like a bargain
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