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Duncan has 15 all-nba team and 15 all-defensive team selections, 3 finals mvps, 5 rings etc etc etc.
I'd move Shaq, Olajuwon, Bird behind him without even thinking too hard about it.
Moving him out of the top 10 would be even sillier than not putting Kobe there too.
I could see arguments for putting him as high as maybe #3 or #4.
Exactly.
Duncan is the only player in nba history with 15 all defense, and if memory stands, he was the only player to be first team all nba and first team defense in his first 8-9-10 seasons.
He's the only player ever to win titles in 3 decades, and not as a 6-8th man but a starter.
He's #2 in defensive win shares behind only Russell (only 2 players over 100) and the only other active player in the top 20 is KG.
He is also 6th in total winshares for his career, behind Kareem, wilt, Malone, MJ, and Stockton.
Anyone who thinks Duncan isn't top 10 or better is hating, or just doesn't know what they're talking about.
Bird is better than Duncan. Id have Lebron around 10-12. Duncan 12-15. Kobe 7-10 range.
I don't think Bird is better than Duncan. Duncan has had very high performance over a very long career. The man will be 40 years old in a couple of months and he's still the lynchpin of his team.
I would even move Bird down a little. If you take the entire NBA history as a whole, he's not as stellar as some view him in the rose colored glasses of Celtic lore. I know I'll take some heat for that, since anything about Bird is usually sacrilege.
Agree. He was a heck of a player. But I wouldn't put him in the top 10.
I was surprised Duncan's assists aren't higher. I don't think the numbers accurately reflect his passing ability. Nobody really talks about his passing, but I've always thought he was a tremendous passer ever since his Wake Forest days.
These kinds of list are good for click bait. But the criteria is always subjective. Personally, if I'm going off of "wow" factor than four players come to mind: Shaq, Jordan, Magic, and LeBron. Those four are the most physically amazing players I have ever seen.
I've always felt post players and wing players should be ranked separately. The have different roles and the head to head numbers comparisons are not effective comparisons.
These kinds of list are good for click bait. But the criteria is always subjective. Personally, if I'm going off of "wow" factor than four players come to mind: Shaq, Jordan, Magic, and LeBron. Those four are the most physically amazing players I have ever seen.
Just the "wow" factor putting rings, "leadership" and efficiency arguments aside?
Jordan
T-Mac
Kobe
Magic
Durant
Lebron
Curry
Iverson
Shaq
Wilkins
Garnett
Wade
Westbrook
Those are the straight hoopers that immediately come to mind (yes, I left Vince off on purpose). Maybe it's the HD factor, but when I watch Kevin Durant, I'm like "Damn." He takes two steps on a drive to the basket and throws it down with two hands. I can't say I've ever seen someone that tall with that level of explosiveness who can also shoot 40% from behind the arc.
I was thinking about adding Rose but he fizzled out too soon. But man, that guy had some jets.
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If going by "wow" factor, I'd also add Carmelo to my list. He used to play with an almost violent power and he had the speed, agility and outside shooting to go with it. And of course, Julius Erving based on what I've seen.
I don't think Bird is better than Duncan. Duncan has had very high performance over a very long career. The man will be 40 years old in a couple of months and he's still the lynchpin of his team.
Slo is a mavs fan who is pure hater, nothing he says about any Spurs player is admissible in any way.
Duncan was also on the all nba team last season, the 2nd oldest player in nba history behind Kareem.
The Wow Factor has to be Jordan of course,Kobe scoring 50/60 at will in his prime,Magic of course,LeBron but only when he dunks on a fast break,Curry,Tmac & Vince carter !!!
And cant forget about Big Shaq Diesel !
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