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^ there you go making non-sense comparisons again.
Year 13:
Jordan 34 years old (well past prime)
Lebron 31 years old (prime)
What's funny is that 34 year old Jordan had arguably a better season.
Let's see if Lebron goes for nearly 30 ppg at 34....
If what actually happened is what matters...Jordan has 6 rings in 6 tries and Lebron has 3 in 7 tries. 6 is 100% more than 3. But let's face it you can't make a logical argument for Lebron being better without using a ton of "what ifs".
Jordan is essentially the only player in the modern era that got the last laugh against everyone he played against.
You can't use "at year 13" as they're totally different ages.
The tough spot is at 30-31 Jordan was out of the league. By year 13 he was 34 years old and past his prime.
Comparatively by age is a bit better tracking IMO.
(almost certain Lebron doesn't make 6 straight finals out west).
I agree probably not six straight. But end result, 3 titles could probably be the same. Again, if Lebron goes to pretty much any team in the West they would instantly become title contenders. Add Lebron to a 45 win team in the West and they are now a top 2 or 3 seed in the West. They won't make the Finals every year, but much like the Spurs, when they do they will take care of business against the East.
I agree probably not six straight. But end result, 3 titles could probably be the same. Again, if Lebron goes to pretty much any team in the West they would instantly become title contenders. Add Lebron to a 45 win team in the West and they are now a top 2 or 3 seed in the West. They won't make the Finals every year, but much like the Spurs, when they do they will take care of business against the East.
agreed, any middle of the road team and up in the west goes to the conf finals at minimum IMO.
agreed, any middle of the road team and up in the west goes to the conf finals at minimum IMO.
Can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not?
I'm saying the addition of Lebron to a middle of the road team would equal favorites to make the conference finals. I don't think that's too far fetched with how much better Lebron makes players around him. Now getting past San Antonio or Golden State in the Conference Finals would not be a guarantee. That's why I am saying only half the time he would make the Finals.
agreed, any middle of the road team and up in the west goes to the conf finals at minimum IMO.
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Can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not?
I'm saying the addition of Lebron to a middle of the road team would equal favorites to make the conference finals. I don't think that's too far fetched with how much better Lebron makes players around him. Now getting past San Antonio or Golden State in the Conference Finals would not be a guarantee. That's why I am saying only half the time he would make the Finals.
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Jordan is 6-0 in NBA finals, and never even went to a game 7. This fact right here ends the argument, IMO.
Jordan's road to the NBA finals went through multiple hall of fame players in the eastern conference playoffs. Lebron has made it to the finals in an era where the eastern conference was weaker than it had been in decades. I believe that played a MAJOR factor in him going back to Cleveland. Sure, the whole "going home" thing sounds good. But when he left Miami, i don't believe he had any intention on going to the west. OKC, Spurs, Clippers, Kobe...he'd rather do the cakewalk thing in the east.
I agree probably not six straight. But end result, 3 titles could probably be the same. Again, if Lebron goes to pretty much any team in the West they would instantly become title contenders. Add Lebron to a 45 win team in the West and they are now a top 2 or 3 seed in the West. They won't make the Finals every year, but much like the Spurs, when they do they will take care of business against the East.
Could win 3 or could win 1 or 2 - just depends on who he has to go through. Take this year for example - Cavs scraped by the Warriors, but I could've seen OKC or the Spurs giving them just as much of a problem. In the west teams usually have to go through two opponents that are title worthy contenders. Playing in the east you need to beat one elite team from the west and that's in the finals. Regardless, point is - making 7 finals appearances isn't quite that amazing while playing in the east.
In a league that has always been top-heavy, people have the nerve to criticize how Lebron got his. If he got them all with one team, yall would still criticize him for doing it in the "weak East"...
He's been to 7 of the last 10 Finals. He's defined the league for a decade. In that time, outhis of a supposed gauntlet West, only 3 teams have made 8 of them. The other 2 (Dallas, OKC) only went once apiece. That contradicts @rigas' absurd statement that "any" middle of the road West teams are contenders...
Only 9 NBA teams, out of 30, have made the last 10 NBA Finals. If you aren't lucky enough to get drafted into "Super Team" the league has always had, you have to do it yourself...
The NHL has had 13/30 teams play in the last 10 Stanley Cup Finals; NFL 13/32 teams play in the last 10 Super Bowls; MLB 11/30 teams in the last ten World Series...the NBA is, and has always been, sports biggest Haves vs. Have Note. Only the fortunate have a real chance. How can anybody be mad at any player for going to a better team? Why isnt anybody mad at Aldridge for leaving Portland?
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