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durant is a more "efficient" scorer than kobe.
not a better player for sure.
Yeah, Kobe also has 9 First Team Defensive selections. I was never much of a Kobe fan (not a fan at all actually), but he's the closest thing to Mike since Mike.
Yeah, Kobe also has 9 First Team Defensive selections. I was never much of a Kobe fan (not a fan at all actually), but he's the closest thing to Mike since Mike.
Kobe's defense has always been overrated. Ray Allen, D Wade, Paul Pierce and Lebron's scoring averages in games played against Kobe Bryant are actually higher than their career scoring averages.
Through 9 seasons, Kobe and Durant actually have identical defensive ratings, Durant averages .2 fewer steals and .5 more blocks. I've never seen Kobe's defense impact a series the way Durant's did in last year's WCF.
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Kobe's defense has always been overrated. Ray Allen, D Wade, Paul Pierce and Lebron's scoring averages in games played against Kobe Bryant are actually higher than their career scoring averages.
Through 9 seasons, Kobe and Durant actually have identical defensive ratings, Durant averages .2 fewer steals and .5 more blocks. I've never seen Kobe's defense impact a series the way Durant's did in last year's WCF.
Post up those head to head stats.
Kobe rarely ever guarded pierce or lebron so you can throw those out.
I actually think they may be more vulnerable to the Spurs than they were last season. Although Duncan has had a much better career than Gasol, I'd have to say that this year's Pau Gasol will be an improvement over last year's Big Fundamental. The Spurs were able to exploit the Warriors' lack of an interior presence during their second meeting in 2016. The Warriors' lack of a true interior defender may be the achilles heel the Spurs can attack.
But comeon spurs couldnt even knock out okc,you think they stand a chance against all those sharp shooters? Spurs will get swept if they are lucky they might get 1 game!Warriors too talented!
Allen's PPG in thos 37 games went up by .3ppg. (not even a HALF a point) and his fg% dropped 2.2% and his 3p fg% (his claim to fame) dropped nearly 5% off his career averages vs kobe.
looks to me like ray took more shots to get that .3 ppg. good defense by kobe to limit those baskets even with ray taking more shots.
wade also went up. this time .6ppg. his FG% ALSO fell, by 3.3% while his 3p fg % dropped 1.1% in their 20 meetings. again, pretty good defense from kobe.
He has a career negative DBPM and Drtg og 105...and that's partially inflated (or rather deflated) by playing alongside Artest
you see, PPG going up isnt always a sign your oppenent plays bad/mediocre or even average defense. there are more factors to defense then how many points someone scores against you. ask tim duncan, artest, bowen, leonard, lebron, hakeem, jordan, payton, russell, all the great defenders will tell you that.
kobe is ranked 42 nba all time in defensive win shares. ALL TIME.
But comeon spurs couldnt even knock out okc,you think they stand a chance against all those sharp shooters? Spurs will get swept if they are lucky they might get 1 game!Warriors too talented!
wait, OKC took a 3-1 lead on GS last year. if not for a near historical choke job by OKC, 1st the warriors would have been eliminated, 2nd, durrant doesnt leave OKC after making the finals, win or lose.
OKC had a ridiculous run in the playoffs last year, period. the spurs are better suited to beat the warriors than they were the thunder.
this year, while so many think the spurs stepped back, IMO they have moved forward.
while duncan is the goat power forward, he wasnt last year, and pau is better right now.
leoonard is just entering his prime and has A TON more growth coming. aldridge is fully comfortable in the spur system which pop is constantly tweaking and molding around his players. the biggest weakness is parker, thats a serious concern but curry is no athletic freak like westbrook/irving. the spurs have a ton of youth that has come in over the summer, and have dropped dead weight like bonner.
slomo is a mini-diaw, with a better work ethic. bertans has been draft and stashed and is considered a poormans dirk with better range. manu is only there for 10-14 mpg, and as a vet presence. mills just coming off lighting the scoreboard up in the olympics, and should continue that hot shooting. and danny green just got lasik eye surgery. thats got to bode well for his shooting %.
wait, OKC took a 3-1 lead on GS last year. if not for a near historical choke job by OKC, 1st the warriors would have been eliminated, 2nd, durrant doesnt leave OKC after making the finals, win or lose.
OKC had a ridiculous run in the playoffs last year, period. the spurs are better suited to beat the warriors than they were the thunder.
this year, while so many think the spurs stepped back, IMO they have moved forward.
while duncan is the goat power forward, he wasnt last year, and pau is better right now.
leoonard is just entering his prime and has A TON more growth coming. aldridge is fully comfortable in the spur system which pop is constantly tweaking and molding around his players. the biggest weakness is parker, thats a serious concern but curry is no athletic freak like westbrook/irving. the spurs have a ton of youth that has come in over the summer, and have dropped dead weight like bonner.
slomo is a mini-diaw, with a better work ethic. bertans has been draft and stashed and is considered a poormans dirk with better range. manu is only there for 10-14 mpg, and as a vet presence. mills just coming off lighting the scoreboard up in the olympics, and should continue that hot shooting. and danny green just got lasik eye surgery. thats got to bode well for his shooting %.
the spurs are IMO upgraded slightly.
Spurs aren't atheletic like warriors,granted curry isn't atheletic like wesbrook or irving how ever his a SHOOTER the BEST shooter the NBA has EVER seen,so you think anybody on the spurs will slow him down?Then their is klay,and durant! Plus if okc had a 3-1 lead against spurs you think spurs can come back from that?Warriors blew spurs last year,they beat em each time expect for one game!The warriors will be too quick for spurs, you seriously think spurs can even stand a chance? Spurs will get 2nd in the west but like always they get knocked out by warriors or a fast paced team.
This shouldn't even be a debate closest team to give warriors a challenge are lebron & cavs!
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