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Old 04-06-2017, 01:14 PM
 
Location: California
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*shrug* the lottery system largely does prevent tanking. I posted earlier what moving from #2 to #3 does to their changes and I think it was about 10%.

If you really want to blame someone go look at the trades they made to get Steve Nash etc.

But don't worry, I hear they're a big market where everyone wants to go so no doubt Durant will go there and so will Westbrook along with Lebron.

That's why the people who made the Steve Nash trade are fired!!! And I know you are being so obvious sarcastic, but with Magic now in charge, be careful what you get sarcastic about.

With Magic in charge and his cred with NBA players, I do see LA as a free agent destination. Only time will tell I guess.
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Old 04-06-2017, 01:35 PM
 
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Might as well have broken it IMO considering Oscar played about 10 more minutes per game.

I also think Harden's numbers knock a tiny bit of luster off Westbrook's accomplishment. Perhaps today's NBA style of play allows for elite guards to get more triple doubles because they have the ball so much + more spacing for rebounds + more 3s creating long rebounds.
I love Harden and his 11.1 assists per game average is remarkable since I feel some have considered him 'selfish' in the past. He averages 29.9 PPG, 8.1 RPG, and 11.1 APG for the season, all sensational numbers for a guard.

But I think Westbrook is by far the bigger impact to his team and his triple double average for the season (as a 6'3" guard) is icing on the cake for being MVP.
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Old 04-06-2017, 01:59 PM
 
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I love Harden and his 11.1 assists per game average is remarkable since I feel some have considered him 'selfish' in the past. He averages 29.9 PPG, 8.1 RPG, and 11.1 APG for the season, all sensational numbers for a guard.

But I think Westbrook is by far the bigger impact to his team and his triple double average for the season (as a 6'3" guard) is icing on the cake for being MVP.
That's true. The decision for some voters might come down to the sheer craziness of Westbrook's numbers vs Harden's numbers on a team that will finish with the 3rd most wins. I think Westbrook wins it. Maybe the first round will tell us who the real MVP should be. If the Thunder lose in 4 or 5, perhaps it makes Westbrook's stats advantage look a little more empty.
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Old 04-06-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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That's true. The decision for some voters might come down to the sheer craziness of Westbrook's numbers vs Harden's numbers on a team that will finish with the 3rd most wins. I think Westbrook wins it. Maybe the first round will tell us who the real MVP should be. If the Thunder lose in 4 or 5, perhaps it makes Westbrook's stats advantage look a little more empty.
Can't wait for this matchup.

This is going to be another great playoff year with many compelling storylines.
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Old 04-06-2017, 02:41 PM
 
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Westbrook has been chasing the triple-double record for most of the season, so there were probably more cases of his teammates consciously trying to get him rebounds (by boxing out and waiting for Westbrook to get the ball) than in Harden's case. If Westbrook's edge in the rebounding department is manufactured by his teammates, it almost makes Harden's season more impressive, given that Harden is the more efficient scorer....
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Old 04-06-2017, 05:56 PM
 
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That's why the people who made the Steve Nash trade are fired!!! And I know you are being so obvious sarcastic, but with Magic now in charge, be careful what you get sarcastic about.

With Magic in charge and his cred with NBA players, I do see LA as a free agent destination. Only time will tell I guess.
Actually no, I wasn't being sarcastic about the LA free agency advantage being a myth. They had a Dr. Buss advantage and to some extent a large market advantage up until the internet changed all that.

Yeah but you've got to wait now to clear off Deng and Moz cap space and of course they only have about a 40% chance now of losing two of their next three first rounders.

Hey, I love Magic but talk about giving him the uphill struggle....cap space hammered and not much to trade or even a core to add talent too.

Lakers recover then great but it's going to be a while but I like their coach and GM so wishing them success.
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Old 04-06-2017, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Westbrook has been chasing the triple-double record for most of the season, so there were probably more cases of his teammates consciously trying to get him rebounds (by boxing out and waiting for Westbrook to get the ball) than in Harden's case. If Westbrook's edge in the rebounding department is manufactured by his teammates, it almost makes Harden's season more impressive, given that Harden is the more efficient scorer....
Plus Harden was able to Get Out from the Kardashian machine with his mental health intact. For that reason alone, I'd be okay with him winning the MVP
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Old 04-07-2017, 03:08 PM
 
Location: California
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Actually no, I wasn't being sarcastic about the LA free agency advantage being a myth. They had a Dr. Buss advantage and to some extent a large market advantage up until the internet changed all that.

Yeah but you've got to wait now to clear off Deng and Moz cap space and of course they only have about a 40% chance now of losing two of their next three first rounders.

Hey, I love Magic but talk about giving him the uphill struggle....cap space hammered and not much to trade or even a core to add talent too.

Lakers recover then great but it's going to be a while but I like their coach and GM so wishing them success.

Yea, that Deng and Moz(goof) deal was the final nail in the coffin for Jim Buss and sorry to say Mitch Kupchak. I do think that it will take some time, but there will be in incline to the teams success from here on out. Just how long will that take, who knows???
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Old 04-07-2017, 07:33 PM
 
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Wow...this Cavs vs Hawks game has been fun to watch. The Hawks are thumping to Cavs despite playing their bench (no Howard, Bazemore, Schroeder).
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:21 PM
 
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Irving shot 8-13, and LeBron shot 12-15, Fyre shot 6-10, Love grabbed 15 rebounds......and the Cavs lost by 14!
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