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Old 07-02-2017, 09:18 PM
 
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I swear if Otto Porter goes west the eastern conference will be inconceivably bad.

I didn't think he was worth a max deal, but the Kings would have a nice little team with him.

Porter, Fox, Cauley-Stein, Hield, Giles, Jackson, Labissiere, Mason and Papagiannis are all under 24 years old.
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Old 07-02-2017, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Korver gets a 3 year deal and came up small in the NBA Finals?
7.3 million per year for a shooter like Korver is not bad in todays NBA.
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Old 07-03-2017, 05:35 AM
 
Location: spring tx
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7.3 million per year for a shooter like Korver is not bad in todays NBA.
Down right cheap
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Old 07-03-2017, 06:07 AM
 
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Milsap to Denver

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246709/Paul-Millsap-Agrees-To-Three-Year-$90M-Deal-With-Nuggets
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Old 07-03-2017, 09:04 AM
 
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The West is building to dethrone the Warriors, or at the very least, bang them up before getting to the Finals. This smells like the Durant effect!
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Old 07-03-2017, 09:40 AM
 
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Milsap to Denver

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246709/Paul-Millsap-Agrees-To-Three-Year-$90M-Deal-With-Nuggets
Good contract for him but why would you want to play for the Nuggets right now? Can't see them getting past the 1st round.
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Old 07-03-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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The West is building to dethrone the Warriors, or at the very least, bang them up before getting to the Finals. This smells like the Durant effect!
It is the Durant effect...either load up with more firepower or get out of the way!
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Old 07-03-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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Good contract for him but why would you want to play for the Nuggets right now? Can't see them getting past the 1st round.
Or was playing in Atlanta just that bad and unfulfilling for Millsap?
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Old 07-03-2017, 12:40 PM
 
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7.3 million per year for a shooter like Korver is not bad in todays NBA.
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Down right cheap
For 3 years? For a shooter who turns 37 next season? Not great--they didn't have much choice given their cap situation, but not great. This looks to me like an indication that the Cavs are standing pat. If they are prepared to move one of TT/Love/Irving, then I don't think they lock up Korver yet.

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Paul George was the third best player in The East. Now he's probably #6-8 in The West. Either way it goes, now the Thunder have two Top 10-11 players again...

I don't like the move to Oklahoma. I'm not sure he and Westbrook can play together. But I am in agreement that now the Warriors are going to have their hands full coming out of that West...

The Cavs tried and failed with Butler and George. This isn't a big deal. Now, it's time to refocus and retool the bench as someone else mentioned. Rediscover the hunger, play the regular season like you mean it. This team can win 60 in the East. Make the bench better. The core is intact--shape the rest of the team and make it another memorable run to The Finals. I want Golden State again....

The Wizards should be better in Year 2 of the Scotty Brooks era and should be good for at least 53-54 wins. A playoff series with them and Cleveland should be classic. The Celtics have become regressive but will still be a Top 3 seed with 50 wins. These three teams will punish the East. Miami will be a playoff team, Milwaukee should be a little better, but after that the East is dead...
OKC is not going to give the healthy Warriors a run. They might take over the Jazz's position of getting swept in the 2nd round. I tend to think they are more likely to get knocked out in the 1st by the Spurs or Rockets.

I think the Cavs are limited to the vet min (and maybe a mini-MLE?). Maybe they'll take Vince Carter ring chasing? He doesn't add much, though.

The Wiz need to add somebody. The Celtics are likely to swing further up. They are young & improving. Gordon Hayward would help.

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If Wizards-Cavs is a classic than the Warriors are coming away with at least another gentleman's sweep in the finals.

Warriors have to feel ok at this point. The big 4 are all expected back and while a few teams have made huge moves, no legit "super teams" have formed yet. Harden/Paul/Ariza/Gordon is really no better than the Clippers with Paul/Griffin/Jordan/Redick. Westbrook/George could be nice but probably outmanned and lacking the chemistry the Warriors have built. Warriors just swept the Cavs who look to be making no major moves - that leaves Lebron a year older and still shouldering much of the load. Starting to get into danger territory if Lebron still needs to average 40 minutes over the course of 90-100 games.

The Warriors have dodged a bullet so far. Paul going to the Spurs could've put a little fear them considering the troubles they had with a healthy Spurs team. If the Rockets, Spurs and Thunder don't make any more big moves the Warriors probably go back to the finals if healthy.
The Warriors have to feel okay because they might be the best team in NBA history. Houston will be way better than the Clips ever have been, but they are not going to be able to defend the Warriors. OKC is not going to be good enough. The Spurs will be the Spurs--a real challenge. The Cavs need a total strategy change to compete with the Warriors in the Finals--if they get there. Calderon helps a little, if he can handle playmaking responsibilities enough to get LBJ some rest. But he could easily be just Darren Williams ver 2.0.

Hayward really improves either Boston or Miami.

So far, I think you have big steps forward from Minnesota, Denver, and Houston. I think Memphis is well positioned to take another step forward next year. The 76ers are still a couple of years away, but the Process is bearing fruit.

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I'm going to go ahead and say it now. If Capela can make a little bit of a leap to restrict Nene's minutes, this Rockets team could be scary. They really missed Nene in the playoffs this year. Capela is a raw talent, but young and gets into foul trouble early. Rockets were fun to watch this year in the playoffs, even though they disappeared against the Spurs, but I believe that was more of rotation problems at the 4 and 5. 4 years and $15 million is peanuts for Nene who is still serviceable, but you'll have to seriously restrict his minutes going forward and look to develop Capela.
The Rockets were already really good, and they are really adding talent this offseason. Defending the perimeter will be an issue (and they are looking up at the Warriors' perimeter attack), but they will be a really good team.

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This may not keep the Warriors from the Finals, but it should ensure they're a little more banged up. Outside of Kawhi going down and LA shrinking, they had met a formidable match in the Spurs. Portland and the Jazz were no competition for the Warriors. A healthy Spurs or Rockets team would have made the WCF series a lot more competitive. This shake up in the West hopefully means more battles for the Warriors to fight through. If Hayward leaves, than we can collectively agree that the Jazz are out of playoff contention. George Hill may even move at that time as well. You now have Minny knocking on the door of the playoffs too. Don't be surprised if Golden State looks to pull a Cleveland and slide into the 2 seed late in the season and let the Rockets take the 1 seed. That does mean they'll have to lose more games, but that's not outside the reality of the West being shaken up right now.
I think the Spurs are still the toughest opponent for the Warriors, but there is still a sizeable gap. Don't let one half of basketball mislead you: the Warriors are better than the Spurs. Minnesota will be a playoff team, but they are probably another year away from being a real danger to the West's top teams. I think the Spurs will be the two seed (to the Warriors 1), but Houston is closing the gap.

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Yes Iduodala is feeling out the market, while Livingston has agreed to rejoin at $8m/yr.

And when the hell did Jrue Holiday become worthy of a $125 million contract?
Holiday is an excellent point guard . . . when healthy.
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Old 07-03-2017, 01:44 PM
 
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For 3 years? For a shooter who turns 37 next season? Not great--they didn't have much choice given their cap situation, but not great. This looks to me like an indication that the Cavs are standing pat. If they are prepared to move one of TT/Love/Irving, then I don't think they lock up Korver yet.



OKC is not going to give the healthy Warriors a run. They might take over the Jazz's position of getting swept in the 2nd round. I tend to think they are more likely to get knocked out in the 1st by the Spurs or Rockets.

I think the Cavs are limited to the vet min (and maybe a mini-MLE?). Maybe they'll take Vince Carter ring chasing? He doesn't add much, though.

The Wiz need to add somebody. The Celtics are likely to swing further up. They are young & improving. Gordon Hayward would help.



The Warriors have to feel okay because they might be the best team in NBA history. Houston will be way better than the Clips ever have been, but they are not going to be able to defend the Warriors. OKC is not going to be good enough. The Spurs will be the Spurs--a real challenge. The Cavs need a total strategy change to compete with the Warriors in the Finals--if they get there. Calderon helps a little, if he can handle playmaking responsibilities enough to get LBJ some rest. But he could easily be just Darren Williams ver 2.0.

Hayward really improves either Boston or Miami.

So far, I think you have big steps forward from Minnesota, Denver, and Houston. I think Memphis is well positioned to take another step forward next year. The 76ers are still a couple of years away, but the Process is bearing fruit.



The Rockets were already really good, and they are really adding talent this offseason. Defending the perimeter will be an issue (and they are looking up at the Warriors' perimeter attack), but they will be a really good team.



I think the Spurs are still the toughest opponent for the Warriors, but there is still a sizeable gap. Don't let one half of basketball mislead you: the Warriors are better than the Spurs. Minnesota will be a playoff team, but they are probably another year away from being a real danger to the West's top teams. I think the Spurs will be the two seed (to the Warriors 1), but Houston is closing the gap.



Holiday is an excellent point guard . . . when healthy.


Korver is a 37 year old shooter who is unable to defend and hit open 3's when it matters but received a 3 year deal.
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