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Old 06-29-2017, 09:36 AM
 
Location: California
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Kobe never "took great care of his body"
Dude never rested, played injured constantly, his ego wouldn't allow him to sit. All you ever heard was how tough he was for playing with injury cxxx or injury yyyy
And yet we complain about players "resting" and sitting out games now. Which way should it be?
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Old 06-29-2017, 10:31 AM
 
Location: spring tx
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And yet we complain about players "resting" and sitting out games now. Which way should it be?
oh i am a real supporter of resting players. i would much prefer coaches to rest their players and watch minutes to be able to get a tim duncan, or manu ginobili being anywhere from very to relatively productive late in their careers, at or nearing 40.

obviously we cant see what true benefits it has, but i have no doubt that tim duncan would not have been an allstar and an all defense team member in 2015 at age 38 had pop played him 36+ minutes for the better part of most of his career. he stopped playing 36+ around age 27, and stopped playing more than 30 around age 34. 2 things stand out about that, 1st, how efficient he really was, despite such low minutes, his numbers were consistent and solid, and 2nd, what would his numbers and averages have been had he played 36+ until he was 31-32-33 yrs old? he got his minutes limited fairly early into his prime. it both shows just how great he really was, and how selfless a player. he trusted in his coach, and his team, and sat when he needed to, in the name of elongating his career and production.

then you look at a guy like kobe who played 36+ in all but 6 seasons of his 20 years. of course the last 3 seasons he played 6 games, 35 games, 66 games all on limited minutes. the other seasons where his 1st 2 seasons, and 2010-11 where he played 34.

by age 34-35 his body was breaking down so quickly, a clear sign of the wear and tear from those minutes and the playing injured.
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Old 06-29-2017, 11:52 AM
 
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LeBron is not your typical human.
Heard that one before and they ALL start to lose a bit in their early 30's.
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Old 06-29-2017, 12:19 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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Why is nobody talking about Paul Millsap- he's a terrific player. Cleveland would do well to sign him- much better than Love.
hes interested in a sign and trade but no teams have been brought up.

he may be too expensive
his current contract (just ending) is equal to what aldridge has over the next 3 years/per year. hes likely looking for a max deal which im not so sure hes a max type player.
30+ mil per year for a slightly undersized PF, whos isnt able to keep up with SF's all that well IMO.
his PER was around 17, good for 68th in the league.
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Old 06-29-2017, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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hes interested in a sign and trade but no teams have been brought up.

he may be too expensive
his current contract (just ending) is equal to what aldridge has over the next 3 years/per year. hes likely looking for a max deal which im not so sure hes a max type player.
30+ mil per year for a slightly undersized PF, whos isnt able to keep up with SF's all that well IMO.
his PER was around 17, good for 68th in the league.
Good summation. Teams won't be eager to break the bank on Millsap but they might later after the bulk of free-agency is over. I think Millsap is a better player in the modern NBA, a stretch 4 with toughness, rebounding and good defense. I don't think his upside is as high as Aldridge's but he is more consistent and plays with more heart (as they say).

He could help (and not distract) pretty much any team.
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Old 06-29-2017, 01:10 PM
 
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Kobe never "took great care of his body"
Dude never rested, played injured constantly, his ego wouldn't allow him to sit. All you ever heard was how tough he was for playing with injury cxxx or injury yyyy
By great care I'm referring to never letting himself get out of shape, changing his body composition to play better longer (lost ~20 pounds of muscle around age 30), eating right, stretching religiously, being the first to try medical procedures like stem cells, having the best trainers, etc. Up until 33/34 it seemed like nothing could take out Kobe long term.

Yeah, Kobe played through crap like pain, injured fingers and a bum wrist, but what ultimately got him was minutes and ONE devastating injury that no one saw coming.
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Old 06-30-2017, 01:17 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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bulls in full on rebuild mode?
trading butler, expected to buy out wade, and about to waive rondo.

talk about panic
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Old 06-30-2017, 01:28 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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what do you think?

players likely to get over paid
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mo-mone...020733457.html
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Old 06-30-2017, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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bulls in full on rebuild mode?
trading butler, expected to buy out wade, and about to waive rondo.

talk about panic
They should definitely be rebuilding. Aside from Robin Lopez at center, this team has no idea who they are now. Is their point guard gonna be Grant, Dunn or Payne? who knows but it shouldn't be Rondo. And Dwayne Wade was a poor leader last year, all due respect to his fine career but buh bye, they'd be smarter to develop Zach Lavine.

I don't see many wins for them next year at all...
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Old 06-30-2017, 03:46 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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Rubio to the jazz for a 1st round pick

Bulls waive rondo and Canaan
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