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Old 08-05-2017, 10:10 PM
 
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James Harden and Chris Paul are frauds. Chris Paul has never gotten to the conference finals in his 12 year career, and he chokes in the playoffs every year just like Harden. James Harden and Chris Paul are floppers, and they both get exposed in the playoffs when refs stop calling their BS.

2012: Harden choked in the Finals when he played for OKC while Durant averaged 32/6 on 55/40/84 splits, and Westbrook averaged 27/7/7. Harden was nowhere to be seen.

2013: Harden choked in the first round against a team missing Westbrook.

2014: Harden choked in the first round losing the first two games at home to the Blazers.

2015: Harden choked again. Harden got benched in a elimination game in the previous round and needed Josh Smith/Corey Brewer/Dwight to save him. Then in the next round against the Warriors, the Rockets lost by 35 at home in game 3 and Harden was terrible. Harden broke the record for most turnovers in a playoff game ever in game 5, and the Rockets were eliminated.

2016: Harden choked against a team missing Curry (back to back league MVP).

2017: Harden choked against a team missing Kawhi and Parker. Harden lost by 39 points at home in game 6 to a Spurs team missing Kawhi and Parker and got eliminated. Harden got outplayed in game 6 by a man who paid $150 to try out for the Spurs d-league team. After the game, 5 Hall of Fame players said Harden quit.

Rockets fans agree. A top post on their forum (Clutchfans) refers to Harden as James Frauden.

Since 2013, Harden has gotten to play against teams missing Curry, Kawhi, Westbrook, and Parker in the playoffs. Harden has lost 3 series since 2013 while having a sizable injury advantage. Simply put, James Harden is a perennial postseason choker. The two perennial chokers of this generation are teaming up. Lebron (3 rings, 4 MVPs, 3 Finals MVPs), Curry (2 rings, 2 MVPs), Durant (1 ring, 1 Finals MVP, 1 MVP), Kawhi (1 ring, 1 Finals MVP), and Westbrook (1 MVP) all have 1 or more of the following: championship ring, Finals MVP, MVP. James Harden and Chris Paul have never won anything. They are frauds.

The Rockets are also coached by all time postseason choker Mike Dantoni.

 
Old 08-07-2017, 08:55 PM
 
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Old 08-08-2017, 02:45 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Well, he's not saying anything that isn't true.
 
Old 08-08-2017, 10:54 AM
 
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Well, he's not saying anything that isn't true.
I wouldn't know. I wasn't going to read some obvious cut and paste job from some one-post-wonder.
 
Old 08-08-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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While there's some truth to this article, there's also some things that are wrong. First one is this. You're giving Westbrook praise and all this and saying he's not a choker, yet when the two teamed up as the lone superstars on each team just this year, who won? Did Westbrook choke? Since you're praising Westbrook I suppose you think not yet look what happened when the two faced eachother.

And the other thing is this, in the 3 finals that Curry has played, he only showed up this season. In the previous 2 finals, he didn't do much in those. Curry needed his entire squad to get him to win in 2015 and then he needed his entire squad to get him to a game 7 for 2016. He showed up in 2017 for the first time. So to say Harden didn't show up in 2015 against the Clippers and his team put him over the hump speaks a lot about Curry's postseason history.

With the exception of Lebron, every single player you mentioned has always had a better team than Harden. Chris Paul hasn't necessarily had a Warriors or Spurs caliber team, but his postseason choking history is still valid considering where he's got.
 
Old 08-08-2017, 04:18 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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While there's some truth to this article, there's also some things that are wrong. First one is this. You're giving Westbrook praise and all this and saying he's not a choker, yet when the two teamed up as the lone superstars on each team just this year, who won? Did Westbrook choke? Since you're praising Westbrook I suppose you think not yet look what happened when the two faced eachother.

hardens team was leaps and bounds better than westbrooks.
westbrook choked? he averaged 37.4ppg, 11.6 rpg, 10.8 apg, 2.4 steals in the playoffs. those are NOT "chokers" numbers. thats one man show with no help numbers.
harden averaged 33.2/6.4/7/1.6. harden had gordon, and williams. both are better than any other player on the thunder last year.


And the other thing is this, in the 3 finals that Curry has played, he only showed up this season. In the previous 2 finals, he didn't do much in those. Curry needed his entire squad to get him to win in 2015 and then he needed his entire squad to get him to a game 7 for 2016. He showed up in 2017 for the first time. So to say Harden didn't show up in 2015 against the Clippers and his team put him over the hump speaks a lot about Curry's postseason history.

curry was injured in the 2016 finals but still averaged 22.6, 4.9, 3.7, he averaged 26 ppg 6 apg, 5 rpg, in 14-15 finals. thats a no show?


With the exception of Lebron, every single player you mentioned has always had a better team than Harden. Chris Paul hasn't necessarily had a Warriors or Spurs caliber team, but his postseason choking history is still valid considering where he's got.
harden was a pure choke job this past post season. his team had ZERO business losing to the spurs without tony, and then getting blown out with no parker or kawhi? that was a choke job if there ever was one.
 
Old 08-09-2017, 11:50 AM
 
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harden was a pure choke job this past post season. his team had ZERO business losing to the spurs without tony, and then getting blown out with no parker or kawhi? that was a choke job if there ever was one.
I still don't know what that was - but it was beyond a choke job. A choke job implies you are actually trying to win.

Not saying he was cheating for gambling purposes, but maybe mentally exhausted and just let go of the rope... ?
 
Old 08-09-2017, 12:48 PM
 
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I still don't know what that was - but it was beyond a choke job. A choke job implies you are actually trying to win.

Not saying he was cheating for gambling purposes, but maybe mentally exhausted and just let go of the rope... ?
the local sports radio guys were DESTROYING him.
hell i think they still are.
 
Old 08-10-2017, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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I still don't know what that was - but it was beyond a choke job. A choke job implies you are actually trying to win.

Not saying he was cheating for gambling purposes, but maybe mentally exhausted and just let go of the rope... ?
It's an ongoing theme, which indicates a trend. Disappearing against the Spurs this year, playing entirely for himself the year before, making two shots with 12 TOS in an elimination game in 2015, etc. Harden's just not a big-game player; he seems to mentally check out when it matters most, as if he's scared to be more than a stat-padder who puts up big numbers.
 
Old 08-11-2017, 02:09 PM
 
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harden was a pure choke job this past post season. his team had ZERO business losing to the spurs without tony, and then getting blown out with no parker or kawhi? that was a choke job if there ever was one.
No. Harden's team was not leaps and bounds better than Westbrook. That's a sad excuse Westbrook fans say to help them feel better about losing. The one advantage they had is guys that can shoot. OKC had the best big man of the duo. And they had additional scorers. Westbrook ball hogged and the ball hog got beat in the olayoffs. You don't win by hogging the ball
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