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Old 10-26-2017, 09:02 AM
 
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Sidenote: I was listening to Broussard yesterday on FS1 talk about how the game is undergoing a cultural shift to a more suburban style and following. Basketball was a "street" sport by the 70s, the majority of the biggest stars came from hard luck backgrounds, and that street essence peaked in the late-90s/early-00s and lasted until maybe a few years ago...

Now, if you look at the Top 20 players in the game, the only guys who come from rough backgrounds are Lebron, Wall, Green, Butler, and DeRozan. The stars are becoming more relatable to the larger American conscious that is suburban, middle class, multiracial, etc. I guess you can count Durant if you want but he's really soft for a guy who grew up where he did with a single mother...

Just thought that would be interesting to note!
So he’s saying the NBA is getting softer? Kids that grew up living a comfy life with good schools and going to all the expensive camps are now outnumbering those with a chip on their shoulder (poverty, etc) and something to prove? So what does that say...people are more complacent living rough? Maybe living rough isn’t as hard as it used to be? Maybe those living rough are distracted by other things like technology/social media and don’t want to put in the work?
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Old 10-26-2017, 10:44 AM
 
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Sidenote: I was listening to Broussard yesterday on FS1 talk about how the game is undergoing a cultural shift to a more suburban style and following. Basketball was a "street" sport by the 70s, the majority of the biggest stars came from hard luck backgrounds, and that street essence peaked in the late-90s/early-00s and lasted until maybe a few years ago...

Now, if you look at the Top 20 players in the game, the only guys who come from rough backgrounds are Lebron, Wall, Green, Butler, and DeRozan. The stars are becoming more relatable to the larger American conscious that is suburban, middle class, multiracial, etc. I guess you can count Durant if you want but he's really soft for a guy who grew up where he did with a single mother...

Just thought that would be interesting to note!
Broussard's opinions are hot garbage.

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So heís saying the NBA is getting softer? Kids that grew up living a comfy life with good schools and going to all the expensive camps are now outnumbering those with a chip on their shoulder (poverty, etc) and something to prove? So what does that say...people are more complacent living rough? Maybe living rough isnít as hard as it used to be? Maybe those living rough are distracted by other things like technology/social media and donít want to put in the work?
It means nothing.
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Old 10-26-2017, 02:19 PM
 
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Broussard's opinions are hot garbage.



It means nothing.
I think it’s worth thinking about. If the NBA turns into a league filled with more advantaged people like Curry, Thompson, Ball, Love, etc, I think it’s something worth noticing.
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Old 10-26-2017, 02:32 PM
 
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I think itís worth thinking about. If the NBA turns into a league filled with more advantaged people like Curry, Thompson, Ball, Love, etc, I think itís something worth noticing.
Thompson is an elite on-ball defender. Curry is the best guard in the NBA at setting screens. And he rebounds well (remember his box out + rebound against Dwight Howard in the 1st round of the '15-'16 playoffs?). They are not soft players.

We don't know much about Ball yet.

Love used to be one of the top offensive post players in the league, and never shied from contact. He changed his game in response to the change in NBA strategy. He is not soft.
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Old 11-02-2017, 08:00 AM
 
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Thompson is an elite on-ball defender. Curry is the best guard in the NBA at setting screens. And he rebounds well (remember his box out + rebound against Dwight Howard in the 1st round of the '15-'16 playoffs?). They are not soft players.

We don't know much about Ball yet.

Love used to be one of the top offensive post players in the league, and never shied from contact. He changed his game in response to the change in NBA strategy. He is not soft.
Iím sure xyz camps properly teach players how and when to use physical contact to their advantage. Iím not sure that has anything to do with being soft...look at Bill Laimbeer who said he was the only NBA player making less than his father. The point is that there could come a time when NBA talent is so specialized and honed from a young age that the kids pulling themselves up by bootstraps find it much more difficult to make it.
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Old 11-07-2017, 07:07 AM
 
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1 > Steph
2 > KD + Lebron
3 > Lebron + KD
4 > Westbrook
5 > Kwahi Leonard
6 > Anthony Davis
7 > James Harden
8 > Kyrie Irving
9 > Damian Lillard
10 > Demarcus Cousins
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Old 11-07-2017, 04:04 PM
 
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1 > Steph
2 > KD + Lebron
3 > Lebron + KD
4 > Westbrook
5 > Kwahi Leonard
6 > Anthony Davis
7 > James Harden
8 > Kyrie Irving
9 > Damian Lillard
10 > Demarcus Cousins
Hmm, Iíve seen some folks having Kyrie outside the top 15...guess heíll keep getting more respect if the Celtics keep up all this winning without even having their 2nd best player. Pretty sure it was Kyrieís goal to be recognized as a top 10 player.
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