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Old 10-12-2017, 12:23 PM
 
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I used to be against this because it takes away rivalries, but at this point, players are all friends, rivalries are dead, so do it.
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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Don't forget the Warriors walk to the finals- No George Hill for Utah, No Kawhi for the Spurs.
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Old 10-15-2017, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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The only way this would be feasible (seeding 1-16 overall) would be to play the same number of games against everybody in the league. Of course that would also shorten the schedule, but then we wouldn't have the issue of star's sitting out. 2 games against each team in the league for 58 total. Personally to me 58 seems to low (if they cut they should cut it to 60 or 65 not below 60). You could play every team in the league 3 times, but that would come out to 87 games, and really an odd number doesn't work.
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Old 10-16-2017, 08:46 AM
 
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If everyone would stop teaming up, parity would even back out, I could only image the 90's if Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, Isaiah Thomas decided to go to the Bulls or out west, Karl Malone decided to go to the Spurs or Tim Duncan went to the Jazz.

Put the first round of the playoffs back to best of 5 and that can shorten things of even give players more rest in the regular season.
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Old 10-16-2017, 12:32 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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If everyone would stop teaming up, parity would even back out, I could only image the 90's if Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, Isaiah Thomas decided to go to the Bulls or out west, Karl Malone decided to go to the Spurs or Tim Duncan went to the Jazz.

Put the first round of the playoffs back to best of 5 and that can shorten things of even give players more rest in the regular season.
how many teams do we currently have star free agents that ran off to another team?
the heat had, the cavs? well not really. via trade yes.
the warriors, they were champions before durant came over.

the rockets? the spurs got aldridge, hes not exactly prime aldridge and hasnt been.
thunder? nope traded.
the celtics that won a title? traded
lakers at that same time? nope traded.

everyone seems to act like the league is full of super teams where all the top guys went and teamed up. in reality, that hasnt really happened very widely. the heat who are no more, and the warriors who were a power well before they got 1 free agent.
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Old 10-17-2017, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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The only problem, in my opinion, with that format is the scheduling and travel. Say if the a lower East seed plays a higher Western seed sometime in the playoffs. You have to schedule around those time zones and make sure both teams have good enough travel time for road games.
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Old 10-17-2017, 11:01 AM
 
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how many teams do we currently have star free agents that ran off to another team?
the heat had, the cavs? well not really. via trade yes.
the warriors, they were champions before durant came over.

the rockets? the spurs got aldridge, hes not exactly prime aldridge and hasnt been.
thunder? nope traded.
the celtics that won a title? traded
lakers at that same time? nope traded.

everyone seems to act like the league is full of super teams where all the top guys went and teamed up. in reality, that hasnt really happened very widely. the heat who are no more, and the warriors who were a power well before they got 1 free agent.
No full of super teams, but everyone teaming to to try to beat a super team. Outside of Durant that left, the others didnt leave, but requested trades to another team to try to be a stacked team

The Pacers are now a lottery ream with no Paul George and OKC got way better. Indiana was only a player or 2 away from be a force in the East before George was traded.

The Bulls are now a lottery team with Wade, Butler, and Rondo gone, with the Cavs, Timberwolves got better.

The Hawks are now a lottery team after Milsap, Howard and Hardaway, while making Denver, and Charlotte better.

The Knicks are still a dumpster fire with or without Carmelo.


The the imbalance of West vs East will continue for a few years and then probably change the other way. The Cavs will be relevant for maybe 1-2 more years and then who knows who will dominate the East.
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Old 10-17-2017, 01:50 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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No full of super teams, but everyone teaming to to try to beat a super team. Outside of Durant that left, the others didnt leave, but requested trades to another team to try to be a stacked team

The Pacers are now a lottery ream with no Paul George and OKC got way better. Indiana was only a player or 2 away from be a force in the East before George was traded.

The Bulls are now a lottery team with Wade, Butler, and Rondo gone, with the Cavs, Timberwolves got better.

The Hawks are now a lottery team after Milsap, Howard and Hardaway, while making Denver, and Charlotte better.

The Knicks are still a dumpster fire with or without Carmelo.


The the imbalance of West vs East will continue for a few years and then probably change the other way. The Cavs will be relevant for maybe 1-2 more years and then who knows who will dominate the East.
i dont agree.
i mean the cavs are a "super team" right? what star asked to be traded to the cavs? irving was drafted, love didnt ask for a trade at all. lebron did what lebron does.

the warriors were a super team before durant, and all from the draft.

rondo was meh at best, wade was a shell of his allstar self, and butler didnt ask to be traded, he was caught off guard by the trade.

the pacers were going no where. and then in the middle of you "i hate super teams" style post, you say the pacers needed to bring in a couple more stars to be somebody, thus becoming a super team.
seems very "have your cake and eat it too" doesnt it?

not a single one of those hawks players asked to be traded, and none of them were traded to build a super team, so im not sure where thats supposed to go.

chris paul was on a "super team" (on paper anyway) and he was only considering opting out and testing free agency, before the clippers decided to find a deal so they got SOME value back for him from somewhere.

there was not a single star free agent in the last couple of years outside of durant that went anywhere to team up. unless of course you consider aldridge still a star. hes borderline anyway.
boston got a borderline star via free agency, the big plash i guess.

so of all those trades, houston is the only team that arguably got better really and they are not a guarantee they got better. the thunder is a yet to be seen team. the warriors stayed the same, the cavs traded a valuable asset for some question marks. the spurs stayed the same, the clippers got worse. these are/were the top teams in the league.

the thing is the super teams where mostly built via drafts and trades, not a lot of free agent star movement. the heat were the last real example of the starts all trying to team up on purpose on one team.
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Old 10-19-2017, 02:30 PM
 
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Under this format the east would still have an edge because there are more perennially bad teams in the east like the Nets, Knicks and a few others who shall remain nameless.

So the EC teams would still get an edge.

Overall I'm not sure how much it really matters and it would disrupt the whole ECF\WCF unless they found a work around for that.
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