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Old 12-10-2017, 08:00 PM
 
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Harden would have been right last year. Kawhi Leonard would have been right last year. LBJ would have been right last year. Westbrook was wrong.
That's a cheap bail out and you know it. All-nba teams and DPOY's are obviously on a different criteria than regular season MVP (unless you think Nash was a better player than Kobe....which you probably would if Nash had played for golden state).

Just kidding, we all know you were probably a kobe fan at that time and hadn't switched teams yet.
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Old 12-11-2017, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Regarding the Rockets, Blazers on Saturday...

Terry Stotts: "They're the best team in the league right now. We took away their passing, took away their 3s and they best us with one-on-one play."

Blazers out shot the Rockets in threes - Blazers 18/41... Rockets 10/25

Blazers out assisted the Rockets - Blazers 19, Rockets 10

It was the one on one play from Harden and Paul and 4thQ defense that won that game.
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Old 12-12-2017, 10:11 AM
 
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Regarding the Rockets, Blazers on Saturday...

Terry Stotts: "They're the best team in the league right now. We took away their passing, took away their 3s and they best us with one-on-one play."

Blazers out shot the Rockets in threes - Blazers 18/41... Rockets 10/25

Blazers out assisted the Rockets - Blazers 19, Rockets 10

It was the one on one play from Harden and Paul and 4thQ defense that won that game.
The Rockets are for real and it gives me hope that I'll get to see some good games in the west and east playoffs this year.
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Old 12-12-2017, 11:57 AM
 
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That's a cheap bail out and you know it. All-nba teams and DPOY's are obviously on a different criteria than regular season MVP (unless you think Nash was a better player than Kobe....which you probably would if Nash had played for golden state).

Just kidding, we all know you were probably a kobe fan at that time and hadn't switched teams yet.
Never liked Kobe, but did love the Vlade-Webber Kings and the Nash Suns.

Regular season MVP is the player with the best regular season performance. The great travesty of the Westbrook MVP is that he led his team to a mediocre regular season finish by playing 'me first & only' ball. It deserved no reward.

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It's Harden's to lose right now. He's leading the best team in the NBA with eye-popping numbers...

His only close competition is really Lebron, but if the award were handed right now, I'd stay Harden deserves it more. If Houston finishes with a Top 2 seed, finishes strong and avoids any prolonged losing stretches, it's his...

Lebron is having his best season in years and it's a shame, but a testament to how well Harden is playing, that he won't get the MVP if voting commenced today. Lebron should have legitimately won the damn thing 6 years in a row--he was the best player in the game in 2008 and outplayed Kobe in most meaningful statistics, but Kobe got the sympathy vote (and in his defense he was due an MVP and did have a good year). And in 2011 he obviously deserved it over Rose. 2008-2013 he should have won six straight MVPs; 2008-2014 Lebron was head and shoulders the best player in the NBA by such a wide margin, probably the widest margin in NBA history, from 1 to 2...

He obviously has drifted closer to the pack since '15 and it's debatable if he's still #1 now, though I think most agree he is, but it's not #1 running away anymore. And the last four MVPs deserved their trophies...

I do think Harden had as strong a case as Westbrook last year, and in 2015 his resume was as arguable as anyone on the ballot with Curry. So even "if" it turns out that Kyrie or Curry or Lebron or someone has a greater season by years end, we may see Harden receive a sympathy trophy, a la '08 Kobe, from voters who feel he should have gotten one already and deserves this year off merit...
I think Kobe or KG were the right choices in 2008, but I agree that LBJ should have taken it over Rose. LBJ sometimes lulls in the regular season, but he has been a better player this year and last than I think he has ever been. The pack has upped their game.
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Old 12-12-2017, 10:28 PM
 
Location: So California
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News - Mavs destroy Spurs. Time to break up the Spurs.
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Old 12-12-2017, 10:35 PM
 
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News - Mavs destroy Spurs. Time to break up the Spurs.
Trying to understand how they lost to the worst team in the western conference with Leonard back in the lineup.
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Old 12-13-2017, 01:57 AM
 
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Never liked Kobe, but did love the Vlade-Webber Kings and the Nash Suns.

Regular season MVP is the player with the best regular season performance. The great travesty of the Westbrook MVP is that he led his team to a mediocre regular season finish by playing 'me first & only' ball. It deserved no reward.
Thunder won 47 games despite losing a top 2-3 player and having a pretty bad roster. Id say they somewhat exceeded expectations.
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Old 12-13-2017, 05:09 AM
 
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Guy's a cancer, OKC knew what they were getting into

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/carmelo...190601433.html
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Old 12-13-2017, 08:13 AM
 
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Guy's a cancer, OKC knew what they were getting into

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/carmelo...190601433.html
My favorite thing about Melo was how he helped send the Knicks to the depths of the NBA toilet for a decade or so. I still remember all their fans going on about him and how they were "big market" so everyone wanted to play there and they'd blah blah blah.

I personally mark his downturn to coincide with being partnered with Iverson in Denver.
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Old 12-13-2017, 08:33 AM
 
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Regular season MVP is the player with the best regular season performance. The great travesty of the Westbrook MVP is that he led his team to a mediocre regular season finish by playing 'me first & only' ball.
I'm going to have to offer the following two counter-points.

1) Steve Nash
2) Steve Nash
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