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Old 01-24-2018, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Kevin Love is the second best player on that team. He's sacrificed the most to make that situation work. If Thomas did lead the charge the veteran Cavs players (especially LeBron) better had spoken up for Love. If not, that could cause irreversible damage. No way in h*ll a new dude should ever call out a veteran and champion in any locker room.
Thereís recent video of Love getting knocked to the ground on the court and no one helping him up. He should demand a trade and let that organization fully implode.
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Old 01-24-2018, 05:26 PM
 
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Yup, Love has always been the odd man out on that team ever since he put on that uniform. He was left out of Lebron's little Cavs group that hung out together and was never truly accepted by LBJ or the others.

Sure there was some fake lip service given to Love when they won the championship, but again, LBJ and his cronies never liked or respected Love.

To his credit, Love never said anything bad about the whole situation, which is more than I would have done. No way in the world would I have tolerated being treated with such contempt and disrespect by my teammates for multiple seasons. And no, I doubt LBJ stuck up for Love, in fact when reporters asked him about the team meeting he simply said no comment. He would never defend Love or truly stick up for him.

He should have ditched that team years ago.
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Old 01-25-2018, 11:16 AM
 
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Kevin Love is the second best player on that team. He's sacrificed the most to make that situation work. If Thomas did lead the charge the veteran Cavs players (especially LeBron) better had spoken up for Love. If not, that could cause irreversible damage. No way in h*ll a new dude should ever call out a veteran and champion in any locker room.
Love should come back at Thomas himself. Love is good enough and important enough to the team that he shouldnít take crap from anyone - including Lebron and definitely not IT. He should be like look, you havenít been here long but Iíve been battling for 3 years including 3 playoff runs...donít come in here questioning me. Jordan is the GOAT but Iíve heard of several players including Steve Kerr that didnít back down from him.
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Old 01-25-2018, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Here or There
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Love should come back at Thomas himself. Love is good enough and important enough to the team that he shouldnít take crap from anyone - including Lebron and definitely not IT. He should be like look, you havenít been here long but Iíve been battling for 3 years including 3 playoff runs...donít come in here questioning me. Jordan is the GOAT but Iíve heard of several players including Steve Kerr that didnít back down from him.
Totally agree. Love should have that down immediately: "Yo, IT, you have been a part of the team for a few months, most of it in street clothes, you play, like, 10 games, and you are questioning me? Play some defense and shut up. End of discussion."

And if IT had a problem with that, LBJ and the other vets should have been like, "IT, he's right. If you have some issues with some other people, now is the time to express it, but the Kevin Love part of this meeting is over."
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Old 01-25-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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Pathetic team

Someone actually helped up Kevin Love in viral video of Cavaliers ignoring him – Spurs’ Dejounte Murray (video)

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Just how maligned is Kevin Love with the Cavaliers?

There have been two (!) viral videos of teammates not helping him up.

The first came when LeBron James stepped over him a couple years ago. The second came during Cleveland’s loss to the Spurs on Tuesday, when Jae Crowder stepped over him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJhTVWxbrvc
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Old 01-25-2018, 03:46 PM
 
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Totally agree. Love should have that down immediately: "Yo, IT, you have been a part of the team for a few months, most of it in street clothes, you play, like, 10 games, and you are questioning me? Play some defense and shut up. End of discussion."

And if IT had a problem with that, LBJ and the other vets should have been like, "IT, he's right. If you have some issues with some other people, now is the time to express it, but the Kevin Love part of this meeting is over."
Its really hard to know what any of these players would say in reply to Love standing up to IT.
Maybe Love couldn't stand up to IT because maybe he knows LeBron would side with IT and it'd escalate into more hatred toward Love.
And LeBron doesn't strike me as a mature personality.
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Old 01-25-2018, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Funny how the Cavs have gotten worse with Crowder (supposed strong defender) and Thomas, while the Celtics have gelled with their departure. The Irving factor is obvious, but may be more at play. One thing is sure, Lue has lost all control of the team (if he ever had it).
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Old 01-26-2018, 02:20 AM
 
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Irving was the go-to-guy, its what separates good from great, the go-to-guy @ crunch time and also other situations throughout the game like when the shot clock is running down or when the offensive play has broken down etc.
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Old 01-26-2018, 10:01 AM
 
Location: California
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Funny how the Cavs have gotten worse with Crowder (supposed strong defender) and Thomas, while the Celtics have gelled with their departure. The Irving factor is obvious, but may be more at play. One thing is sure, Lue has lost all control of the team (if he ever had it).
I think Crowder and Thomas benefited from the heavily structured offense and defense that Brad Stevens ran. Crowder looked good defensively because all of his teammates were committed as well. When the backline defense is there wing players can really press up on the opposition. When you know all of your guys will rotate you can do so without a second thought. Without that structure he's really lost in Cleveland.

Offensively, Thomas had a green light in Boston. And even then Stevens knew how to deploy Thomas at the right times. It wasn't all IT all the time. But in fourth quarters Stevens knew how to run sets for Thomas and really set him loose.

Without that a real game offensively and defensively Thomas and Crowder just aren't the same players.
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Old 01-26-2018, 07:26 PM
 
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Stick a fork in him!

Sure, injuries took a toll, but that's no excuse for not giving a shyte and not trying to develop your other skill sets.

A really unfortunate fall from the heights of NBA superstardom.

Time for Derrick Rose and his apologists to realize his career is all but over

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Besides Rose’s diminishing skills on the court, there are the distractions he brings off it. He has needed time away both with the Knicks and Cavaliers. With the Knicks, it was an unexcused family issue; with the Cavaliers, he needed to get his head straight and reportedly contemplated retirement.

Let’s go ahead and put an end to that debate. It was a great first four seasons, but the welcome wore out.
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