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I'm Cavs fan and quite honestly care very little about the Warriors. But 90s Rockets are not better than this Warrior team neither are Kobe-Gasol Lakers, you could debate the Shaq Kobe Lakers (I think those Laker teams present matchups problems with the Warriors). I think fans of both squads (maybe they are really the same fans HAHA) will point out that Shaq would be useless in the series but Laker fans would point out that guys like Draymond and Durant would be in foul trouble.
I don't think the Warriors are likeable...but who cares. Do they have an aura- I say no. They have a killer instinct- they can pull away and pour it on against any team. I think Lebron steals some of the aura in the matchups that we've previously seen, but the Cavs don't possess it either. The 90s Bulls I would argue had the aura- I don't know of too many teams in recent history that have had an aura.
Depends which rules they're playing under. The old ability to handcheck would be devastating to the GS offense.
There is plenty of aura, plenty of talent, and this is the best team in basketball. You can only measure them with the all-time greats, because that is the pantheon where they belong.
They were the best of last season, just like any other team in history that won a championship.
The year before that they were so hopeless that they failed to win from 3-1 up.
And Green being suspended doesn't justify that collapse at all.
We've seen plenty of championship teams overcome adversity to win (actually the Cavs overcame adversity by coming back from 3-1 down).
And the year before that they won but struggled vs the massively depleted Cavs.
Historically speaking, this is nothing more than a championship team.
They were the best of last season, just like any other team in history that won a championship.
So '97 Bulls, '11 Mavs, '17 Warriors--all the same?
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The year before that they were so hopeless that they failed to win from 3-1 up.
And Green being suspended doesn't justify that collapse at all.
Salty. The three year run this team has put together is measurable only against the 90s Bulls & the Russell Celtics.
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Originally Posted by amenalot
We've seen plenty of championship teams overcome adversity to win (actually the Cavs overcame adversity by coming back from 3-1 down).
And the year before that they won but struggled vs the massively depleted Cavs.
Historically speaking, this is nothing more than a championship team.
I wish you could embrace the joy in GSW basketball. It's good for you.
^ That's a very insecure statement.
Your opinion should be enough for you, without using the derogatory language.
I accept that some people value the regular season above the playoffs, so be it....
I just don't see 2015 and 2016 as anything special (in terms of all-time), based on what they showed in the playoffs.
The Warriors underperformed in 2015 and 2016. Jordan and Kobe had some good prior Finals post season experience, but Magic and Bird started winning pretty soon into their careers. 60s Celtics didn’t have much competition unless Wilt got some more help.
The Warriors were not as suited to the playoffs prior to receiving Durant.
If the Cavs weren't so injured in 2015, the Warriors would have lost that too and be ringless heading into 2017 playoffs.
Durant gave them a guy that could defy playoff halfcourt defensive pressure, while Curry struggles at times.
The Cavaliers can manhandle the Warriors without Durant.
He is a ruthless EFFICIENT <<notice emphasis>> scorer.
IMO he's been on Lebrons ass for years as the best player in the league.
Don't get me wrong, Curry, Clay, Green are all very good to great but IMO Durant is clearly one level above any of those guys and amazingly can just fit right in which is not something a lot of first ballot HOFers (which he will be easily) can always do.
Again, you just can't compare across eras sometimes. The rule changes since the Bulls were substantial, it's no longer a big mans league, (for example) would IMO determine the series. Old rules...Bulls kill them, New rules I think GS wins.
As a team, Golden State suit today's rules more than the 90s Bulls, but imagine how many free-throws MJ would get in today's NBA.....
He was the absolute master of deception and getting defenders off-balance, and now the soft fouls are called more than ever.
MJ would be worth 2 whole superstars in today's NBA.
And Rodman would scare the life out of Green.
Heck, I saw Rodman guarding Orlando Shaq, and it looked looked like an even match-up!
MJ would absolutely stop Klay.
Pippen would make life hell for Durant, also Rodman can help out (because Green would be in foul trouble or ejected).
Harper on Curry would be a good match-up.
Kukoc is an ideal player for today's NBA, would score plenty.
I missed the Beal-Green dustup over the weekend...what started that?
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