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Old 04-11-2018, 10:59 AM
 
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I don't understand what is wrong with the Warriors, its like they hate basketball.
Its not hard to try to win a basketball game, but they make it seem like the worst job in the world.
And their so-called "dynasty" (which will probably never even win back-to-back championships) has no reason to be mentally drained.
Plenty of teams in NBA history have had to work harder and for more consecutive years, teams that consistently made the Conference Finals and Finals....and teams that had to fight a lot harder for regular season wins.
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Old 04-11-2018, 11:29 AM
 
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I don't understand what is wrong with the Warriors, its like they hate basketball.
Its not hard to try to win a basketball game, but they make it seem like the worst job in the world.
And their so-called "dynasty" (which will probably never even win back-to-back championships) has no reason to be mentally drained.
Plenty of teams in NBA history have had to work harder and for more consecutive years, teams that consistently made the Conference Finals and Finals....and teams that had to fight a lot harder for regular season wins.
They sleepwalked to 58 wins. Boredom with the regular season has been the prime culprit. Obviously last night was a game 82 that didn't matter for GS & they played like it. The question now is whether they can sustain full game efforts on defense & away from the ball during the playoffs. Last year they didn't wake up to playoff ball until the second half of Game 1 against the Spurs. Without Curry, they can't afford to sleep through a first round opponent. It's on Draymond & Iguodala to get this team locked in.

This team has nothing to prove. But it will have to be great to beat Houston.

The Warriors have gone to 3 straight Finals. They've won 2. That puts them already in rare company: the Heatles, Shaq-Kobe, the Jordan Bulls, the Bad Boy Pistons, the Magic-Kareem Lakers, the Bird Celtics, and that's it until you get back to the Russell Celtics. Adding in back-to-back champs only adds the Olajuwon Rockets & the Kobe-Pau Lakers. Curry is the only Warriors star over 30 (he turned 30 this year). This team's run is not over.

In their 3rd run, the Kobe-Shaq Lakers "only" won 58 games in the regular season--missing their star for 15--and finished 3rd in the West. Then they battered their first two playoff opponents and put away a brilliant Kings team with the help of dirty NBA refs (I'm not bitter about that one . . .) before rolling over the Nets in the Finals.

The '97-98 Bulls dropped off to 62 wins, falling from the '97 stratosphere to join the mere mortal Jazz, Sonics, and Lakers in the low 60s. They fought through a tough ECF and a tough Finals to complete their second 3-peat.

We'll soon find out if the Warriors can collect themselves for another title run--and if their star can come back healthy enough to lead them to the promised land.
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Old 04-11-2018, 12:10 PM
 
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I don't understand what is wrong with the Warriors, its like they hate basketball.
Its not hard to try to win a basketball game, but they make it seem like the worst job in the world.
And their so-called "dynasty" (which will probably never even win back-to-back championships) has no reason to be mentally drained.
Plenty of teams in NBA history have had to work harder and for more consecutive years, teams that consistently made the Conference Finals and Finals....and teams that had to fight a lot harder for regular season wins.
Mental fortitude is just as much a part of the game as any physical attribute. If the Warriors lose we will probably be talking about them not being hungry enough to reach a 4th straight finals. Maybe lost their edge. The first title was needed for everyone involved to prove themselves...the 2nd for the new blood (Durant) and redemption for the 2017 flop. Now Harden/Paul are in the position of the 2015 Warriors.

If the Warriors don’t win they’ll probably be considered one of the weakest “dynasties” - down 1-3 to OKC, blew a 3-1 lead in finals and possibly a no show in year 4.
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Old 04-11-2018, 12:59 PM
 
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What a wonderful moment for Andre Ingram last night!
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Old 04-11-2018, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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What a wonderful moment for Andre Ingram last night!
Totally agree... 10 years in the G-League... torches the league's best team for 19 pts on national TV... and gets a long interview with Ernie and Crew afterwards.

How could you not enjoy that...

On the other hand, there was Zubac - who was Chris Paul's personal play toy in the 4thQ.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7oOxKNkZ7c
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Old 04-11-2018, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Plenty of teams in NBA history have had to work harder and for more consecutive years, teams that consistently made the Conference Finals and Finals....and teams that had to fight a lot harder for regular season wins.
"Plenty of teams"?

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/c...nba-dynasties/

The Warriors are 255-63 since the start of the 2014-15 season. That's the best 4-year run in NBA history. They've also been in the Finals the last 3 years and are aiming to make it a 4th consecutive time, which hasn't been done since the Celtics of the 60s. There really haven't been any teams that have been in a comparable position.

As someone already pointed out, the Bulls had mediocre (by their standards) regular season results after 2 consecutive trips to the Finals and the Pistons were a complete shell of their former selves after 3 consecutive trips, posting a 50-32 record before being ignominiously swept out of the Playoffs. I'm not sure who these teams are who worked harder than Golden State has and did so for more consecutive years.

I doubt the Warriors care very much about the regular season any more. They're damned if they do, damned if they don't. Win 73 games and people say they've used up all their gas. Win 60 games and people say they're not motivated. So for a team to win a championship, should we agree that 64-66 wins is the magic number?
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Old 04-11-2018, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Western US
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The Cavaliers are my pick to win the NBA championship this year.

Obviously they are peaking at the right moment, like they do every post season.
I think it'll be a Warriors repeat, so long as they can get Steph back in the second round. Golden State will be fine without Curry in the first round. Every round after that is a whole different story. There's no way they're going to beat Houston at anything less than full strength.

The Cavs have great offense, but their defense is not the best. Defense wins championships.

That being said, we'll just have to wait and see what happens. Playoffs start on Saturday.
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Old 04-11-2018, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Western US
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Raptors won't beat Cleveland. Right now I'm leaning toward Cavs and Sixers in the ECF.

Warriors are in trouble. Durant can score 40 and they still lose. They're an average team with him in charge. The talking heads aren't giving him an endless wave of grief they would be giving Lebron in the same situation.
The Raptors have a chance to beat Cleveland, but it's all about whether Toronto can keep up with Cleveland with a shoot-out. Personally, I think the Cavs have more shooters, so that could be an advantage for them should they face off in the playoffs.

Golden State is not in trouble yet. I think they will turn it up a notch now that the playoffs are just around the corner. They'll be in trouble if Steph doesn't return when the second round comes around.
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Old 04-11-2018, 08:05 PM
 
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Found out OKC can only finish 4, 6, or 8th.
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Old 04-11-2018, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Western US
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Found out OKC can only finish 4, 6, or 8th.
Looks like OKC will get the W tonight.
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