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Old 11-10-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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Old 11-17-2017, 02:03 AM
 
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If there’s ever a player I could see adapting to any changes in playing style or rules, it would have to be Jordan. If he needed to shoot more 3s he’d probably challenge himself and work at it enough to make it part of his game...especially if people started saying he’s not a good long range shooter. Could I see someone like Shaq being able to shoot 3s like today’s big men - heck no, but I could see Jordan knocking them down better than say Westbrook.
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Old 11-17-2017, 06:36 AM
 
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And in 1992 the media was comparing Drexler and Jordan because they were headed for a Finals match-up and the one area they said Drexler was better than Jordan was the 3-pointer.
And what happened in the finals? Jordan made 6 three-pointers in the first half of game 1.
Jordan had a lot of will-power, he could alter reality when he wanted to.
And as early as 1989-90 Jordan shot .376 from downtown (92 of 245).
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Old 11-17-2017, 08:11 AM
 
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If there’s ever a player I could see adapting to any changes in playing style or rules, it would have to be Jordan. If he needed to shoot more 3s he’d probably challenge himself and work at it enough to make it part of his game...especially if people started saying he’s not a good long range shooter. Could I see someone like Shaq being able to shoot 3s like today’s big men - heck no, but I could see Jordan knocking them down better than say Westbrook.
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And in 1992 the media was comparing Drexler and Jordan because they were headed for a Finals match-up and the one area they said Drexler was better than Jordan was the 3-pointer.
And what happened in the finals? Jordan made 6 three-pointers in the first half of game 1.
Jordan had a lot of will-power, he could alter reality when he wanted to.
And as early as 1989-90 Jordan shot .376 from downtown (92 of 245).

Jordan was a bad three point shooter. Really bad. If you subtract the three seasons with the shortened three-point line, he the only shot better than .300 THREE times. He shot below .200 FIVE TIMES, including his penultimate season with the Wizards...a time in his career where he SHOULD have focused on his shooting, since his athleticism had waned.
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Old 11-17-2017, 08:52 AM
 
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Jordan was a bad three point shooter. Really bad. If you subtract the three seasons with the shortened three-point line, he the only shot better than .300 THREE times. He shot below .200 FIVE TIMES, including his penultimate season with the Wizards...a time in his career where he SHOULD have focused on his shooting, since his athleticism had waned.
Don't mention his time with Washington. Those two years didn't really happen, he didn't play them, the records and statistics from those two seasons are figments of imagination. There are some guys around here who will whip you for even daring to mention that Michael Jordan was still an NBA player for the Washington Wizards and that, that period actually counts and actually happened. Lol...
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:50 AM
 
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Jordan was a bad three point shooter. Really bad. If you subtract the three seasons with the shortened three-point line, he the only shot better than .300 THREE times. He shot below .200 FIVE TIMES, including his penultimate season with the Wizards...a time in his career where he SHOULD have focused on his shooting, since his athleticism had waned.
Wow, that's some pretty cheeky statistical abuse.

His first years in the league he averaged about 50-60 three pointers a year and only made 1 of 6.

The vast majority of those were end of quarter heaves as it was never in the offensive plan to utilize him as a perimeter 3-point shooter.

The other year he shot under .200 he was 38 and again, only took about 53 shots from three point range the entire season which would then include last second heaves.

The next year he shot 10 points higher but again only took something like 57 shots, clearly the heaves and small sample size are going to create a lot of variance and bias.

I'm open to any factual statistics based discussion about the topic, clearly last second heaves impact 3pt % and moreso on someone shooting 50 per year instead of 500.
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:57 AM
 
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Don't mention his time with Washington. Those two years didn't really happen, he didn't play them, the records and statistics from those two seasons are figments of imagination. There are some guys around here who will whip you for even daring to mention that Michael Jordan was still an NBA player for the Washington Wizards and that, that period actually counts and actually happened. Lol...
Yeah, Jordan shouldn't even be in the top 10. After all he had SIX years from the start to the end of his career where he scored under 500 points for THE WHOLE SEASON. (Capitals added to make it look like I'm really on to some keen and dramatic insight )

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Old 11-17-2017, 10:16 AM
 
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The end of quarter heaves but also the fact that if he missed his first trey he'd often not attempt any more of them in that game, so there would be plenty of 0-1 games. Whereas if you prioritize trey-shooting you'd keep attempting them even if you are 0-1 or 0-2 or 0-3, you'd shoot your way into a rhythm.
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Old 11-18-2017, 01:41 AM
 
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Jordan was a bad three point shooter. Really bad. If you subtract the three seasons with the shortened three-point line, he the only shot better than .300 THREE times. He shot below .200 FIVE TIMES, including his penultimate season with the Wizards...a time in his career where he SHOULD have focused on his shooting, since his athleticism had waned.
You are just looking at stats with no perspective.

For most of Jordan’s career, teams barely shot 3s. Through 1988 TEAMS attempted less than FIVE 3-pt attempts per game. From 89-94, teams attempted about 6-8 3s per game. Do you think it would’ve been wise for a player like Jordan who can basically score any way he wants to hone a long range shot in a league that doesn’t shoot 3s?

Like most other teams of the 80s/early 90s, the Bulls had their designated 3 pt specialists...guys like Paxson, Hodges and Armstrong.

There is however a few anomalies that PROVE Jordan could shoot 3s if he desired:

- in ‘90 he attempted a career high (without the shorter line) 3.0 attempts per game and made a very respectable 38%. In the ‘90 playoffs he attempted 3.1 and made a pretty average 32% (league average was about 33% in 1990).

- in ‘93 he attempted 2.9 3s and made a respectable 35%. In the ‘93 playoffs he attempted 3.8 3s per game and made 39%.

Other than that, Jordan never had a season averaging more than ONE 3-pt attempt per game (with the standard distance). And how many of those attempts were bail outs or last second heaves that brought his average down?

So yeah, Jordan could shoot 3s if he wanted to make it part of his game. Would he be a great 3 pt shooter nowadays? Maybe not, but probably no worse than players like Kobe, Westbrook or Lebron.
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Old 11-18-2017, 01:57 AM
 
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Don't mention his time with Washington. Those two years didn't really happen, he didn't play them, the records and statistics from those two seasons are figments of imagination. There are some guys around here who will whip you for even daring to mention that Michael Jordan was still an NBA player for the Washington Wizards and that, that period actually counts and actually happened. Lol...
Only a true Lebron fanboy would mention Jordan’s play at 39-40 after 3 years of not playing. He should’ve played at an MVP level like Duncan, Shaq, Kobe, KG, etc...oh wait, they either didn’t play at that age or totally sucked. Let’s wait and see what Lebron is doing at 39.
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