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Old 03-02-2018, 03:25 PM
 
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I turns out that the wiretaps probably didn't begin until 2017, Deandre Ayton committed to Arizona in September 2016. If this is true, Miller and Ayton are vindicated.

Possible defamation lawsuits: Is a Lawsuit Against ESPN the Next Step for Sean Miller?
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Old 03-02-2018, 03:35 PM
 
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The problem is if they do that, ESPN will have a huge team of lawyers and will dig and find something. Maybe not massive payments, but even if someone got Ayton's third cousin a free foot-long from subway, people would start crying. (Most likely there are violations bigger than that.)
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Old 03-02-2018, 04:11 PM
 
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the problem with suing ESPN is that miller, along with ayton, are public personalities, and thus the bar is set quite high for defamation lawsuits. if miller can prove the reports that ESPN put out were truly false in nature, and were done with intent to harm the program or miller himself, then he has a case.

ESPN might have a large staff of lawyers, but so does the university of arizona, who would also likely join a lawsuit against ESPN since they too were defamed by the report, and the program was harmed as a result of the report, a four star recruit decommitted from arizona and went to UCLA. and i wonder how many other recruits, and possible recruits changed their minds to go to arizona in any sport.
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Old 03-02-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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That's true. Unfortunately ESPN most likely gets to get away with their trash journalism. What ever happened to that nonsense story about Brady and Belichick hating each other a couple months ago? But there's always the risk ... what if ESPN goes digging and finds Trier got $500 for a signed jersey or something relatively small? In a program this big, there's bound to be something to find (especially since Book has already been arrested). Then again, ESPN is probably already looking. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing ESPN hand over an 8 figure settlement check.

It's nice to hear that Miller got a big standing ovation last night. But I'm still not ready to watch college basketball again yet. Reading that Miles Bridges had to pay $40 to get reinstated because his family got a free meal that he was unaware of is truly depressing.
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Old 03-02-2018, 06:12 PM
 
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the problem with suing ESPN is that miller, along with ayton, are public personalities, and thus the bar is set quite high for defamation lawsuits. if miller can prove the reports that ESPN put out were truly false in nature, and were done with intent to harm the program or miller himself, then he has a case.
That's the key right there, it seems more that Schlabach was just trying to "one-up" Yahoo Sports and their massive NCAA basketball report the previous day. I don't think Mark had intent to harm the University and/or Miller, sloppy journalism, probably, malice, no.

Schlabach doubled down, like Miller did and still stands by his source. Either the source is lying/mistaken or Miller is lying. Lets say Miller is lying, he probably figures either way he's eventually going to get fired, so might as well just deny everything now, and buy yourself some more time. With Mark, he can always just plead ignorance and blame it on his source.

With the NCAA changing the rules a few years ago, the coach is responsible for his entire team and staff, even if they do something behind his back without him knowing. With Book Richardson (Miller's friend/confidant for 15 years) getting arrested/fired, even if Miller had no clue about Book taking money to give to players/recruits (which I find pretty unbelievable), Miller could still be suspended for games (like Jim Boeheim) and the team put on probation, have a post-season ban and loss of scholarships.

I feel best case scenario for Arizona with regards to what Book Richardson did (I'm not even talking about all the stuff Miller could have done), is that the NCAA gives them a one year probation with a post-season ban and a loss of a few scholarships. Which shouldn't be that bad, since it looks like that will have 5-7 available scholarships next season anyways with nobody to fill them!

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Old 03-03-2018, 10:17 AM
 
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Schlabach still hasn't tweeted a single thing since last weekend (after an average of over 10 tweets per day since 2009, and 46 tweets last weekend). Any bets on whether or not he sends out another tweet before march madness is over?
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Old 03-03-2018, 06:52 PM
 
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Ayton: 26 points, 75% from the field, 20 rebounds in Arizona's win over Cal today. He sure doesn't seem to be affected by all this turmoil.
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Old 03-03-2018, 07:01 PM
 
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On the other hand, Trier 1-10, 2 pts. Awful.
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Old 03-03-2018, 07:24 PM
 
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Ayton: 26 points, 75% from the field, 20 rebounds in Arizona's win over Cal today. He sure doesn't seem to be affected by all this turmoil.
He's going to be a multi-millionaire in 4 months after going either 1st or 2nd in the NBA draft on June 21st, I'm sure that helps him sleep better at night and doesn't allow any of the turmoil to effect him!

Arizona will most likely do their usually second weekend bow out (or earlier) in the upcoming NCAA tournament, since their defense is horrendous, but it would be hilarious and ironic if they actually won it all this year and then have their season and title vacated just like Louisville.
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Old 03-03-2018, 08:04 PM
 
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He's going to be a multi-millionaire in 4 months after going either 1st or 2nd in the NBA draft on June 21st, I'm sure that helps him sleep better at night and doesn't allow any of the turmoil to effect him!

Arizona will most likely do their usually second weekend bow out (or earlier) in the upcoming NCAA tournament, since their defense is horrendous, but it would be hilarious and ironic if they actually won it all this year and then have their season and title vacated just like Louisville.
you are assuming the miller and or ayton did something wrong here. the ayton family says through their lawyer that no one received any money from the university, or anyone else for that matter. and miller is claiming that he did nothing wrong, and the board of regents so far agrees with him. espns reporting is rubbish at this point.
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