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Old 02-24-2018, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Mooresville, NC
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Quite the day yesterday and it will continue as more info is leaked.

FBI probe into corruption reveals basketball powers may have broken NCAA rules

Sean Miller will be the first casualty of it all at the head coach level as I doubt he'll ever coach another college game again, as he shouldn't. Arizona has a game tonight so we'll see if they have any integrity whatsoever or will allow him to coach and Ayton to play.

This was the least kept secret in the history of "secrets" though. The amount of blame for the game getting to this point is really a long list.

NCAA for not setting up a way to pay players to head off some of this.
Shoe companies for injecting dirty money into AAU and college basketball as quickly as they can to try and influence for potential future gain.
AAU for having coaches making $200k and funneling kids based on where the coaches are getting paid from.
College coaches for enabling and participating in this and paying to get players.

The list of places that are systemically broken is a long one and there's a lot to fix. Not sure the NCAA will punish schools (as there are a lot) or go after the individual figures causing the issue.


The REALLY sad part is this all came from ONE AGENT. Think about that for a second. A single agent, not even a big one really, created all of this. You think he's the only shady one out there? LOL

The system is completely rotten from the inside and needs a full overhaul.
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Old 02-24-2018, 02:54 PM
 
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Miller: good riddance, what a liar and phony. Of course he won't be the only casualty. It's sad on one hand, and a lot of these programs and the NCAA we knew were a disgrace. I'm happy watching mid major and lower high level programs. Best basketball to watch anyways. If there is corruption, no evidence of it from the FBI report. And most of these particular athletes actually graduate. These schools that allow these obvious one and dones to be enrolled at their schools are getting exactly what they deserve; can't blame the NCAA and agents for EVERYTHING.
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Old 02-24-2018, 06:39 PM
 
Location: NC
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Quite the day yesterday and it will continue as more info is leaked.

FBI probe into corruption reveals basketball powers may have broken NCAA rules
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Weasel word of the day, "may"... also "may not".
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Old 02-24-2018, 07:11 PM
 
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as i understand miller will not be coaching the team tonight. as for ayton, chances are he plays tonight anyway, we shall see. i have a feeling that miller saw this coming when he hired lorenzo romar after washington let him go, and made him an associate head coach. i hope romar doesnt get caught up in this crap though, again we shall see.

it does disappoint me though that miller got caught up in this crap, but from what i have heard this isnt new, in fact it goes back many many years and is nation wide.

the really bad thing is if arizona fires miller for cause, he still walks away with $10.3 million for a contract buyout.
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Old 02-24-2018, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Sean Miller will be the first casualty of it all at the head coach level as I doubt he'll ever coach another college game again, as he shouldn't.
Rick Pitino of Louisville was the first casualty in this investigation, which has been on-going for months now.

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NCAA for not setting up a way to pay players to head off some of this.
If players want to be paid, they can set up a minor league system.
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Old 02-25-2018, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I grew up in Illinois in the 1970's. Illinois state U. was never a basketball power, but somehow Doug Collins went there. He's now known mostly as a coach, but he did play in the NBA 8 years as a shooting guard. My friend at ISU told me that as a 'struggling' college student Collins had a Corvette and a Lincoln Continental sedan. Most college students back then did not even have a TV, much less a car.


So that was about 45 years ago. I doubt that things will change after this case, but coaches and their staff will just get smarter about avoiding detection. Miller did his deal on a cell phone. That's the last time that will happen.
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Old 02-25-2018, 10:30 PM
 
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yup, this issue has been going on for many many years, and the NCAA has been letting the schools get away with more and more over those years. the only reason its coming to a head now is because the FBI has gotten involved in the issue. a lot of coaches are going to lose their jobs, a lot of student athletes are going to get hurt in this, and a lot of schools are going to have ncaa sanctions put on them, probably enough schools that the 2019 ncaa champion will be some school that few have heard of, or are at best a middle of the road school. probably some school like rhode island state, or eastern southern washington st college or some such school.
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Old 02-26-2018, 01:08 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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The whole system is rotten, and why those who crow about the college game being more “pure” are full of it. Everyone is making millions off these kids while they get suspended if they’re given so much as a free sandwich.
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Old 02-26-2018, 09:04 AM
 
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It's strange on one hand why much more of the sleaziness is harped upon by the media when it comes to basketball than football, sans the FBI wiretaps publicized the last six months. I think it comes down to agents being able to pinpoint top professional prospects at a younger age more so in hoops. Then the reality also, where one player easily is worth $100,000 to a top tier program, which can be the difference between a national contender and being a third tier team. Still, high time these two sports get fixed for a litany of reasons beyond just agents and bribes. Issues exist too probably with other niche sports in a few select programs.
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Old 02-26-2018, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Well the kids are having college paid for and at some of those schools, that's quite a big of money. For the more talented ones, this is a showcase for their NBA draft.

They can try to hide it all they want but they will get caught. It doesn't have to come down to intercepting e-mails or text messages. When a kid and/or his family are suddenly driving new cars, buy a new house, etc., that's suspect right there.
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