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Old 03-09-2018, 01:26 PM
 
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Bama should be a strong bubble now, close to a lock, outscoring Auburn 50-22 in the second half after trailing by 10 at the half!
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Old 03-09-2018, 06:00 PM
 
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I still feel the two best teams I ever saw was 85 Georgetown and 91 UNLV. And neither won it. 99 Duke is right up there as well, though 99 Uconn (Duke's opponent in the final) was an excellent team also. One that left me unconvinced was 03 Syracuse with Carmelo. Not close to being the best team in its own conference and got that controversial gift by playing the regionals in Albany despite only being a 3. 97 Arizona should have lost in the very first game vs South Alabama. Probably same thing for 2014 Uconn vs St Joes. The tourney sure is quirky often times.
Actually that Syracuse team was definitely a top 3-4 team in the Big East in 2003 and has other players that could score on that team.

A lot of teams get seeding gifts in the tournament.

With that said, the tournament is usually about guard play and how a team plays within its roles.
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Old 03-09-2018, 06:28 PM
 
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Bama should be a strong bubble now, close to a lock, outscoring Auburn 50-22 in the second half after trailing by 10 at the half!
If Alabama loses one more game and makes it as an "at-large" team into the tournament, they will have tied Vanderbilt from last year, for the most losses by an "at-large" team with 15. Vanderbilt was a #9 seed last year, can't see Alabama getting that high, unless they win the SEC tournament, but then they would get the automatic bid and have only 14 losses.
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Old 03-09-2018, 07:47 PM
 
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Yeah, with the NYC metroplex, you basically have three arenas that could host a post-season conference tournament, MSG, Barclays in Brooklyn and Prudential in Newark. Of course MSG is the marquee name, Brooklyn has that "hipster vibe" and well Newark, is the odd person out.

Like you mentioned, with the Big East having a long term deal with MSG for their conference tournament and the ACC using Barclays for the second year in a row (they go back to North Carolina in 2019 and 2020), there wasn't too much the Big 10 could do, if they wanted to play in NYC, but move up their tournament a week to play in MSG.

I liked it when they played the Big 10 tourney in either Chicago and Indianapolis, but with Rutgers joining the league (along with Maryland, they played the Big 10 tourney in DC last year) and trying to tap into that #1 media market in the US, I wasn't surprised they did what they did this year. Over the next 4 years, the Big 10 tourney alternates between Chicago and Indianapolis.

It's interesting on how much the Big 10 and the ACC wants that NYC market!
It's so strange seeing the Big Ten playing their conference tournament in NYC and also the ACC playing in NYC. Even the SEC playing in St. Louis and the Pac 12 playing in Las Vegas seem strange. At least in the case of the SEC they have a team in the state of Missouri.
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:37 PM
 
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Actually that Syracuse team was definitely a top 3-4 team in the Big East in 2003 and has other players that could score on that team.

A lot of teams get seeding gifts in the tournament.

With that said, the tournament is usually about guard play and how a team plays within its roles.
But that Syracuse situation was the most egregious. They were clearly of course a top 4 Big East team, but also not as good as UConn, and clearly not as good as Pitt, who won both the regular season and conference tourney. Pitt's reward for its accomplishments was being shipped out of the east region and as a the higher seed, having to be grouped with Wisconsin and if I remember right, Marquette in the Milwaukee pod. Meanwhile, Syracuse went to Boston and then ultimately, Albany, basically getting a home game against the top seed, Oklahoma. That was as asinine as anything the committee has ever done. Never should a top seed be at that much of a home court disadvantage.
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:46 PM
 
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It's so strange seeing the Big Ten playing their conference tournament in NYC and also the ACC playing in NYC. Even the SEC playing in St. Louis and the Pac 12 playing in Las Vegas seem strange. At least in the case of the SEC they have a team in the state of Missouri.
Well you do have Syracuse of the ACC (New York) and Rutgers of the Big 10 (35 miles away in NJ). But to the point, none of it feels right. Seeing Duke clashing with UNC in Brooklyn seems as out of place as a Red Sox-Yankees ALCS, game 7 played in Little Rock, Arkansas.
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Old 03-09-2018, 09:38 PM
 
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arizona/ucla game went into overtime with arizona ending up winning the game. but what a game it was. it was too bad that someone had to lose. in the end arizona shut ucla down in overtime to win 78-67.
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Old 03-09-2018, 11:33 PM
 
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Bama should be a strong bubble now, close to a lock, outscoring Auburn 50-22 in the second half after trailing by 10 at the half!
Joey Brackets, just moved Alabama from a #11 seed, playing in the "First Four" in Dayton to a #9 seed, with their win yesterday and the rest of the chaos of the day. I guess if they lose today against Kentucky, they will undoubtedly move back down to #11 seed range.
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Old 03-10-2018, 07:17 AM
 
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Does the Big East lose two #1 seeds with Xavier losing in OT


I think if Nova/Xavier played in the final regardless of the winner/loser both would have gotten ones
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Old 03-10-2018, 07:39 AM
 
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the Pac 12 playing in Las Vegas seem strange
While the Pac-12 doesn't have any teams in Nevada, I think Vegas actually works quite well for their conference tournament, since it's an easy flight from almost all of the places the Pac-12 play, plus it's a fun getaway destination.

The Pac-10/12 has a young history when it comes to post-season tournaments, having their 1st in 1987, then stopping 3 years later and taking a 12 year hiatus before starting it up again in 2002. When they restarted their tourny in '02 they picked the Staples Center in LA, which wasn't bad since a ton of alumni from the varying schools live in SoCal, some more than others obviously.

I think with most post-season tournaments, because of the randomness and not knowing if your team will go far or not, it's hard to have good attendance throughout depending on where it is located. I think the Staples Center with it's 19,000 seats was just too big for the Pac-12 tourny, even if USC/UCLA made deep runs or AZ, who has a huge alumni base in SoCal.

Before they moved it to Vegas, there was talk of the Pac-12 rotating the tournament every two years to places like LA, Oakland, Portland, Seattle, Phoenix, etc., but I'm not sure how serious the conference was with doing that.

Useless fact (Pub Trivia) side note, there are 4 conferences (Pac-12, MWC, WCC, WAC) that hold their post-season tournaments in Vegas, but only one, the Mountain West Conference, has teams (Nevada and UNLV) that are located in that state. Plus the Big Sky Conference tournament is held in Reno, but no NV teams in that conference either.
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