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Old 03-14-2018, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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I was thinking about this while watching highlights of luka doncic, who is projected as a top 10 pick in the draft.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrvJofEw6tI


He looks great on video(reminiscent of Pistol Pete), but then so did Darko Milicic. Doncic is a 6'6" guard from Slovenia (by way of Spain). There have been many successful foreign big men going back to Hakeem Olajuwon, but I was trying to think of the non-big players, and there seem to be precious few. I don't count Steve Nash for purposes of this post, since he was born in British Columbia, only several hours drive north for me. Plus B.C. used to have an NBA team. These are all the guys I could think of:




Louol Deng
Manu Ginobili
Tony Parker
Goran Dragic
Jose Calderon
Dennis Schroeder
Sarunas Marciulionus
Ricky Rubio
Thabo Sefolosha
Raja Bell


Guys like Frank Ntilikna and Buddy Hield I left out, because I don't think they've been in the league long enough to be considered impact players. I also left out guys like Steve Kerr, who was born in Lebanon. IIRC his dad was a diplomat serving there. Arguably Detlef Schrempf and Toni Kukoc could have been added; they were 6'10 and 6'11, but both more of perimeter players.


I'm sure I missed some, but the point remains--that is not a lot of non-big foreign players given how long the NBA has been using imports. The overwhelming majority are bigs. This makes sense of course. Since 7 footers are such a small percentage of U.S. population, teams are able to recruit more by expanding the population base from 320 million to 7.25 billion. That has not been necessary for non-bigs.


I wonder how much of a risk Doncic is in the draft, given this.
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Old 03-15-2018, 08:23 PM
 
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Dude, how can you leave out Peja and Petrovic????

Just kidding, here are some more:

Peja Stojakovic
Drazen Petrovic
Hedo Turkoglu
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Danilo Gallinari
Andrei Kirilenko
Nicolas Batum
Evan Fournier

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Old 03-16-2018, 11:42 AM
 
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Andrew Wiggins
Leandro Barbosa
Emmanuel Mudiay
Andre Kirilenko
Boris Diaw
Ben Gordon (kinda)
Wally Szcerbiak
Beno Udrih
Ben Simmons
Patty Mills
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Old 03-16-2018, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Dude, how can you leave out Peja and Petrovic????

Just kidding, here are some more:

Peja Stojakovic
Drazen Petrovic
Hedo Turkoglu
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Danilo Gallinari
Andrei Kirilenko
Nicolas Batum
Evan Fournier

.

Peja is a good catch. He was a favorite player of mine, so I should have remembered. Turkoglu too. I saw Petrovic play live, and to me he was overrated. He was a good shooter, but not much else. However, I looked up his stats, and they do look pretty good. .437 lifetime 3 pt. shooting....
Some of the others I left off because I considered them as bigs. Of course, especially in today's NBA, there's a blurry line between 'big' and 'non-big.'
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Old 03-16-2018, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Andrew Wiggins
Leandro Barbosa
Emmanuel Mudiay
Andre Kirilenko
Boris Diaw
Ben Gordon (kinda)
Wally Szcerbiak
Beno Udrih
Ben Simmons
Patty Mills
Some of these guys I left off because they had at least one American parent. Wally S. for example was born in Spain to an American father who was coaching Real Madrid, and (as far as I know), an American mother. Another example is Andrew Wiggins, who is the son of ex-NBA player Mitchell Wiggins.
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