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Old 06-09-2018, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Matter of fact, i am confused why Magic is left out of the GOAT discussion.
Even in the 3 point long shooter era it is still about SI cover shot dunks over some defender.
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Old 06-09-2018, 09:12 PM
 
Location: So California
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Michael Jordan was also double and triple teamed every night...probably more than any perimeter player in history. Not only was he unstoppable 1 on 1, but he was unstoppable when teams sent 2-3 guys at him. He was easily the best player ever at splitting the double team, spinning away from the double team, or simply shooting over it. I'd say Kobe was second best. Durant tends to panic and turn the ball over when being blitzed by two or more defenders.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_nt21y8Xy0
Great video, reminds me who the GOAT is. Jordan was just so fun to watch, and that coming from a Lakers fan.
LeBron is a great player but heís no Jordan.
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Old 06-10-2018, 10:49 AM
 
Location: The 719
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Jordan beat the best of the best, so he is the best.

LeBron James is the best player of the J.V. Team league which is the NBA Eastern Conference.

LeBron is the King of Junior Varsity Basketball and that is it.

Michael Jordan will always be >> LeBron James.

Deal with that, put it in your pipe and smoke it or whatever else it is you do.
Ha ha GOATs don't get swept says Jordan!
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Old 06-10-2018, 11:55 AM
 
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Not true. The triangle offense does not have "the four other players on the other side of the floor." What are you people smoking?

The Triangle Offense: Triangle Basics

It was tough for guards to score back then, not so much for handchecking, the effects of which people tend to blow out of proportion, but for the fact that there was no defensive 3 seconds. Instead of having Draymond or Iggy waiting behind Curry, Jordan would have Mutombo, Ewing, Olujawon or O'Neal waiting for him at the basket.

If anything, modern-day shot blockers should be given more credit because they can't stand underneath the goal waiting to swat away shots the way they did back in the day.
THE question is what the hell are you smoking? Jordan himself admitted that he wouldnít have had the career he did if the zone defense was around. His words, not mine. Heís still the greatest but the rule change around 2001 changed the entire game. Think whatever you want even though itís wrong.
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Old 06-10-2018, 06:28 PM
 
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THE question is what the hell are you smoking? Jordan himself admitted that he wouldnít have had the career he did if the zone defense was around. His words, not mine. Heís still the greatest but the rule change around 2001 changed the entire game. Think whatever you want even though itís wrong.
Kobe tried to replicate Jordan and he had a pretty good career from 2001 onward. I think essentially 100% of people will agree that Jordan was much better at everything than Kobe so whatever career he has itís probably among the best ever.
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Old 06-10-2018, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Land of the Great Bears
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Great video, reminds me who the GOAT is. Jordan was just so fun to watch, and that coming from a Lakers fan.
LeBron is a great player but heís no Jordan.
Great video? The first three plays were terrible defense, I stopped watching after that.
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Old 06-11-2018, 08:27 AM
 
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Great video? The first three plays were terrible defense, I stopped watching after that.
Shhh. Donít tell them how terrible perimeter defense was in the 70s, 80s and 90s. Let them keep thinking hard fouls in the lane equal good defense.
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Old 06-11-2018, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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THE question is what the hell are you smoking? Jordan himself admitted that he wouldn’t have had the career he did if the zone defense was around. His words, not mine. He’s still the greatest but the rule change around 2001 changed the entire game. Think whatever you want even though it’s wrong.
Demar Derozan averaged 27.3 ppg last season on 46.7% shooting against today's advanced defense. Nuff said.
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Old 06-11-2018, 10:17 AM
 
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Demar Derozan averaged 27.3 ppg last season on 46.7% shooting against today's advanced defense. Nuff said.
Yeah, and what did he do in the playoffs, in particular, the last 2 games. Nuff said.
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Old 06-11-2018, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Note the Points Per 100 Possessions for these players. I don't think scoring prowess gets any more straightforward than this.

Jordan - 41.5 (Bulls)
Shaq - 37.4 (Lakers)
McGrady - 37.0 (Magic)
Durant - 36.9 (Thunder)
Lebron - 36.7
Harden - 36.9 (Rockets)
Kobe - 35.8
Gervin - 35.3 (NBA)
Wilkins - 35.2 (Hawks)
Malone - 34.4 (career)
Curry - 33.0
Bird - 30.3
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