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He couldn't win until the Lakers, Celtics and Pistons got old. There were no great teams during his 90s reign. Not one. None of those Knicks teams was better than Dwight Howard's Orlando Magic.
I believe there are four reasonable answers to the GOAT question: Wilt, Kareem, MJ and Lebron. No wrong answers there, but Six-Rings Dogmatism is silly. The rings don't tell the story.
"Dwight Howard's Orlando Magic" team is being used as a reference??? Dwight Howard would even be a starting center in Jordan's era, when all centers were at least 7 Ft (compared to Dwight Howard's 6'10). Hakeem, David Robinson, Dikembe Motumbo (sp?), Shaq, Ewing, Alonzo Mourning (who was 6'10 but could actually score unlike Howard) and were big agile bodies, unlike these stick figure players you see today. Real legit big, tough power forwards guarding the lane (Duncan, Barkley, Malone, Kevin Willis, Oakley, Kemp).
This era, there are hardly any 7 footers. All players are skinny 6'9-6'10 hybrid players. That's why Lebron can bully his way into the lane whenever he wants. No way he would be able to do that with the size and skill of the big men in Jordan's era.
"Dwight Howard's Orlando Magic" team is being used as a reference??? Dwight Howard would even be a starting center in Jordan's era, when all centers were at least 7 Ft (compared to Dwight Howard's 6'10). Hakeem, David Robinson, Dikembe Motumbo (sp?), Shaq, Ewing, Alonzo Mourning (who was 6'10 but could actually score unlike Howard) and were big agile bodies, unlike these stick figure players you see today. Real legit big, tough power forwards guarding the lane (Duncan, Barkley, Malone, Kevin Willis, Oakley, Kemp).
This era, there are hardly any 7 footers. All players are skinny 6'9-6'10 hybrid players. That's why Lebron can bully his way into the lane whenever he wants. No way he would be able to do that with the size and skill of the big men in Jordan's era.
The goon you remember was 6’8, 225. That’s five pounds heavier than James Harden and 25 pounds lighter than Blake Griffin. He’s not bullying anybody, in today’s league.
He couldn't win until the Lakers, Celtics and Pistons got old. There were no great teams during his 90s reign. Not one. None of those Knicks teams was better than Dwight Howard's Orlando Magic.
I believe there are four reasonable answers to the GOAT question: Wilt, Kareem, MJ and Lebron. No wrong answers there, but Six-Rings Dogmatism is silly. The rings don't tell the story.
Jordan never left his team after failure to join other starts when they were losing in the 80's.
The only advanced metric where Willis comes close to Grant is PER, and that's because of his much higher usage rate. We're talking a differential rating (Ortg minus Drtg) of 30 points to Willis' 6 points... a boxscore +/- of 7.3, compared to Willis' +1, and a 6.7 VORP to Willis's 2.2. Using basic stats that speak to efficiency and defense, Grant had 1.6 blocks and 1.2 steals to Willis' .7 and .9, and his fg% was 58% to Willis' 48%. Grant was better.
The PROFESSIONALS that watch hundreds of NBA games year after year, never put Grant on an all-NBA team. You and I can quibble all we want but those guys didn't deem him worthy at any point of his career despite making the all-defensive team.
What does that have to do with the central thesis of this thread? Jordan dominated a weak era.
....and you dodge posts that destroy your argument.
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