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Old 05-29-2018, 07:07 PM
JL
 
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For the sake of the NBA, i am going to root for the Warriors in the Finals. This should force Lebron to leave this summer and get a ring elsewhere with the Rockets his best opportunity and last chance to play with CP, his buddy that he wanted to play with before retirement. This will also end a Cavs/Warriors part V for many of us who are sick of the same two teams. Cavs end up as lottery team. Rockets with Lebron, CP3, and Harden will finally challenge the Warriors' superteam.
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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For the sake of the NBA, i am going to root for the Warriors in the Finals. This should force Lebron to leave this summer and get a ring elsewhere with the Rockets his best opportunity and last chance to play with CP, his buddy that he wanted to play with before retirement. This will also end a Cavs/Warriors part V for many of us who are sick of the same two teams. Cavs end up as lottery team. Rockets with Lebron, CP3, and Harden will finally challenge the Warriors' superteam.
Your logic is backwards.

Rooting for the Warriors only justifies Kevin Durant's idiotic choice to play for a team that was already a solid super-team. Durant should not be rewarded for that with another ring. GSW would be in the finals every year even if Durant never joined at all.

Lebron joining the Rockets makes the NBA even more unwatchable as the east will be a joke, outside of Boston. Even if Lebron somehow won this year, he would still leave the Cavs next year. He knows Boston will have a healthy lineup next year.
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Old 05-29-2018, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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Two years ago it seemed most casual NBA fans in NYC wanted the Warriors to win. Now it seems nearly everyone will be cheering against them.
Fans want their team to win, failing that they want a new team to win. The last thing that they want is someone else's building dynasty
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Old 05-30-2018, 06:45 AM
 
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Golden State needed Houston to go 7-44 downtown in Game 7 (and .314 series) and no Chris Paul.
No chance against Jordan's Bulls, Magic's Lakers, Bird's Celtics, Shaq's Lakers, Zeke's Pistons, Olajuwon's Rockets, Duncan's Spurs, Wade's Heat etc.
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Old 05-30-2018, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Golden State needed Houston to go 7-44 downtown in Game 7 (and .314 series) and no Chris Paul.
No chance against Jordan's Bulls, Magic's Lakers, Bird's Celtics, Shaq's Lakers, Zeke's Pistons, Olajuwon's Rockets, Duncan's Spurs, Wade's Heat etc.
I think they would beat all of those teams with the exception of the Bulls and the Pistons.

One thing this series showed us is that Golden State is still, at its core, a finesse jump-shooting team who can be thrown out of sync by athleticism and hard-nosed defense. Even Kevin Durant had his difficulties with Chris Paul pushing into him and not allowing him to dance around with his dribble. At this stage in his career, KD still doesn't handle double teams all that well either.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=opdFzn3teSA

I could see the Bulls and the Pistons slowing the game against them and grinding them down. And unlike KD, the double or even triple team was largely ineffective against Jordan, so we can already give him anywhere from 33-38 points per game in a series against the Warriors.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_nt21y8Xy0
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Old 05-30-2018, 08:57 AM
 
Location: The State Line
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Two years ago it seemed most casual NBA fans in NYC wanted the Warriors to win. Now it seems nearly everyone will be cheering against them.
Golden State was still new to winning two years ago. No one minds if a once failing team wins once in a while. Warriors are competing for their third in four seasons; different story now.

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Fans want their team to win, failing that they want a new team to win. The last thing that they want is someone else's building dynasty
It's certainly not unique to any sport. No one wants to see the Patriots keep winning Superbowls, another baseball team to have dynasty like the Yankees, and I imagine not many outside of Pittsburgh would watch the Stanley Cup if they were vying for their third in a row... .
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Old 05-30-2018, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Golden State was still new to winning two years ago. No one minds if a once failing team wins once in a while. Warriors are competing for their third in four seasons; different story now.
I don't think it's the fact they are winning. The Bulls won 6 of 8 titles and enjoyed a larger national fanbase than what the Warriors have now. It's how the Warriors are winning that bothers people. They went out and got the 2nd best player in the League after winning 73 games. I'm not sure how people would have felt about the Bulls had they traded away their bench for a prime Shaq and a young Kobe.
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Old 05-30-2018, 09:09 AM
 
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And unlike KD, the double or even triple team was largely ineffective against Jordan, so we can already give him anywhere from 33-38 points per game in a series against the Warriors.

Jordan was so used to being double-teamed that he often used it to his advantage, getting the two defenders to get in each other's way and create his path to the basket or open jumper. And his ability to double pump to either side allowed him to take it inside to the big guys and still get his shot, often plus one.
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Old 05-30-2018, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Cleveland, OH
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Your logic is backwards.

Rooting for the Warriors only justifies Kevin Durant's idiotic choice to play for a team that was already a solid super-team. Durant should not be rewarded for that with another ring. GSW would be in the finals every year even if Durant never joined at all.

Lebron joining the Rockets makes the NBA even more unwatchable as the east will be a joke, outside of Boston. Even if Lebron somehow won this year, he would still leave the Cavs next year. He knows Boston will have a healthy lineup next year.
Your thinking is kind of backwards. If LeBron wins with this Cavs team in these Finals, he wouldn't leave because of Boston coming back healthy they would be chasing to beat him not the other way around.
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Old 05-30-2018, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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Jordan was so used to being double-teamed that he often used it to his advantage, getting the two defenders to get in each other's way and create his path to the basket or open jumper. And his ability to double pump to either side allowed him to take it inside to the big guys and still get his shot, often plus one.
This is what happens a good deal of the time when you bring hard doubles against Durant. If anyone remembers from a couple of years ago in the regular season classic against the Warriors, he was double teamed and committed a crucial turnover, which allowed the Warriors to tie the game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMmJhFomGx4
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