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Old 05-16-2018, 04:43 PM
 
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Lebron scored 40 last night and they were down at one point late in the 4th by 15. Nance, Clarkson, and Hood are giving them nothing. Cleveland rolled the dice, because they honestly had to. Things weren't working with Shumpert and IT. This is a resemblance of when Lebron left the first time. It's no mystery that this team struggles to create it's own, unless it's fed to them through Lebron. None of these guys can take their man off the dribble.


Some of the fault is Lebron, but at the same time, Cleveland wouldn't be where it's at without Lebron. What he learned in Miami put Cleveland back on the map. I'm not saying this team was going nowhere, but Kyrie wasn't taking them to the Finals in 2015, like Lebron did. He makes any team he's at better, until they're not.

I think everyone knew what they were getting with Nance, Clarkson, and Hood, but at the same time, you do hope the change in scenery would spur things along. Hood was likely the biggest gamble and that's what you get when you gamble. You either win big on your bet or you lose it all.
That's are because the cavs owner is an idiot that loaded up a team with huge amounts of talent by being about the worst team in the league and Lebron came back (despite the owner being a dick to him after leaving).

The owner churns through pretty much GM's and coach's and interferes etc. etc. etc.
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:45 PM
 
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I really don't see LeBron even thinking about going to Golden State. Should that happen, which is exceptionally unlikely, I only see James joining the team for his own good; he wants to make sure that no one on the Warriors has more rings than he does.
If Lebron were to go to GS, I'd 100% quit the NBA.

I'd go out for ice-cream and not come back....just like I did to MLB.

They need to maintain some form of competitive balance and the super-teams are on the cusp of wrecking even that.
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:47 PM
 
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LBJ doesn't make teams better . He go's to very good teams and shines in the bright spotlights and the glory of ESPN.
LMAO....he joined a non-playoff Cleveland team and took them to a title. You just start following the NBA or what?
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:48 PM
 
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The Bucks came back from 0-2?

Funny I thought the Celtics won that series so I guess the Bucks "didn't come back"

No team has ever come back against the Celtics down 0-2 as in never ever

This isn't the Cavs of 2-3 years ago the Celtics are younger,faster and more talented across the board they are making the Cavs look old and tired....which they are.

Celtics just took Lebron's best shot and still won by double digits

The Bucks won 3 games in Milwaukee so why can't the Cavs who are the better team win 3 games in Cleveland?
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:51 PM
 
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That wasn't improbable. That was the better team staying engaged and not panicking. LBJ was fatigued in the 1st half.



Stevens is a good coach, but the Cs have a better roster than the Raps. It is always talent that makes the team in the NBA.



Incredibly dirty play, and shame on Lue for leaving JR in the game when the officials failed to send him off.



That wasn't scouting. That was LBJ hoping to break Boston's spirits with an early flurry. And LBJ and the Cavs demonstrating their porous defense after that attempt failed.



GS is no Utah, that is certain. If GS defends like they did Monday, I don't like Houston's chances.



KD's been great in these playoffs, but Curry is GS's best player. And the GS MVP of the playoffs thus far has been Green. His work on LMA, AD, and Capela--plus his elite help and physicality--have utterly broken opponents' offenses. The best defensive player in the world has turned it up to 11, and he has the Warriors playing the best defense in the playoffs.



Irving at 30+ minutes will hurt this team's elite defense.



Boston without Kyrie presents a new type of challenge for GS--an elite defense with no real weaknesses. Of course, the Warriors present a new type of challenge for any team--one of the best teams in history on both ends of the floor.



The Celtics and Warriors split the season series, with Boston winning a close one in November and GS winning a close one in January. Both of these teams have changed since then.

That would be a fascinating Finals matchup, but both of these teams still have to beat the opponents in front of them. If GS wins tonight, then I think we can call the series at 2-0. I can't imagine Houston taking 2 of 3 in Oakland.



The Cavs can't defend, and LBJ is a big part of the problem. He is taking too much time off on that end.



LBJ is clearly in the pantheon of basketball greats. KD is a great player who still has a lot to accomplish to reach that status.



Correct. The Cs have to retain Marcus Smart--that dude can play. It would take brass cojones, but Kyrie as 6th man might be the right move with this glut of wings. Brown, Tatum, Smart, and Rozier have proven they deserve heavy minutes. Semi has proven that he is a rotation player. And the Cs will have to integrate two more wings--Hayward and Irving--next year.



Best coach in the league? There is a Legend in San Antonio and a pair of legends-to-be in Oakland and Miami who have something to say about that.



The Cavs have talent, but they can't play together--especially on defense.



Cleveland's big risk was IT's health, and they cut bait at the trade deadline when the question mark was looming large. This is a team with plenty of talent, but they didn't figure out how to play together.



The future Cs have some big personnel decisions to make. This year's Cs are not done, and could be a fascinating matchup for the Warriors (or a nightmare for the Rockets, if they manage to figure it out).


The raptors played awful defense against Lebron which is why Casey was fired.
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Old 05-16-2018, 04:52 PM
 
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If Lebron were to go to GS, I'd 100% quit the NBA.

I'd go out for ice-cream and not come back....just like I did to MLB.

They need to maintain some form of competitive balance and the super-teams are on the cusp of wrecking even that.
I will admit, Golden State is unfair enough already with Curry, KD, Thompson, and Green. Adding LeBron would literally destroy the competitive balance of the NBA.

LeBron to the Warriors wouldn't work out because of personalities. It just wouldn't do any good for the team.

Golden State is already a superteam, and adding yet another star player would annihilate any competition from the Warriors. There has to be some form of competitive balance indeed. At least one team needs to be able to give the Warriors a run for their money. I'm a Warriors fan, but it's just no fun seeing them breeze through the playoffs every year. Having some drama and at least one team giving them a fight makes it more fun to watch. Hopefully next year someone can give the Warriors a fight. Boston perhaps? I don't think Houston has a chance, especially if Golden State wins Game 2 and heads home needing to only win both home games to sweep the series.
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Old 05-16-2018, 05:00 PM
 
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I really don't see LeBron even thinking about going to Golden State. Should that happen, which is exceptionally unlikely, I only see James joining the team for his own good; he wants to make sure that no one on the Warriors has more rings than he does.
I was just being my typical sarcastic SOB, I know Bron isn't going to the Dubs. Heck, after next season, a bunch of the Warriors (Curry, Green, Iguodala, Thompson, etc.) will all have 4 rings each, more than the King has!
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:40 PM
 
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This was what I was afraid of. Golden State with careless turnovers and careless execution.

Houston is killing them in transition, ball movement, and intensity.

Time for Dubs to start focusing and give KD the ball!
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:44 PM
 
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Agree 100%. It’s the sloppiness I can’t handle. Even if your shots aren’t falling, at least handle the damn ball.
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Old 05-16-2018, 07:56 PM
 
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Two successive sloppy turnovers by the Dubs, now down by 18 points.
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