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View Poll Results: How many regular season wins for the lakers in 2018-19?
35-40 11 18.03%
40-45 15 24.59%
45-50 16 26.23%
50-55 15 24.59%
55-60 2 3.28%
60+ 2 3.28%
Voters: 61. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-06-2019, 08:41 PM
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5.5 Games back with 18 left. You're right, I don't even think LJ would want to fight to make the playoffs just to see GS in round 1.
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Old 03-07-2019, 07:44 AM
 
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This is a hilarious\annoying thread start to finish.

First off, people made ridiculously high predictions of the Lakers win totals considering that they don't play in the east where Lebron and 4 guys from the YMCA can make the playoffs.

Then, when they wind up being about a 40 win team instead of a 55 win team his first year there.....people melt down like it was some sort of collapse or great failing.

People had silly, irrational expectations about Lebron & friends his first year there and are now melting down largely because of the 24-7 news cycle where they have to turn molehills into mountains on a daily basis.

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Old 03-07-2019, 08:02 AM
Status: "Phillies baseball is MLB dysentery." (set 2 days ago)
 
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This is a hilariously annoying thread start to finish.

First off, people made ridiculously high predictions of the Lakers win totals considering that they don't play in the east where Lebron and 4 guys from the YMCA can make the playoffs.

Then, when they wind up being about a 40 win team instead of a 55 win team his first year there.....people melt down like it was some sort of collapse or great failing.

People had silly, irrational expectations about Lebron & friends his first year there and are now melting down largely because of the 24-7 news cycle where they have to turn molehills into mountains on a daily basis.
This just proves how good Kobe was. Lol.
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Old 03-07-2019, 09:41 AM
 
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Does this mean Lebron added to any team in the NBA doesn’t = 50+ wins?

2018 Lakers led by nobody won 35 games...now on pace to win about 37-38 games.

Old MJ took the Wizards from 19 wins to 38 wins only playing 60 games. They probably make the playoffs if not his injury that season.
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Old 03-07-2019, 05:39 PM
 
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This just proves how good Kobe was. Lol.
The last time the Lakers made the playoffs, they had 2 all-stars on the squad along with Pau Gasol.
They were the 7th seed and got swept 4-0.

I think the only year Kobe ever made the playoffs without at least 1 other all-star was when he was in his prime around age 28 and even then he had a pretty good squad as that was before Bynum melted down.
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Old 03-07-2019, 05:43 PM
 
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Does this mean Lebron added to any team in the NBA doesn’t = 50+ wins?

2018 Lakers led by nobody won 35 games...now on pace to win about 37-38 games.

Old MJ took the Wizards from 19 wins to 38 wins only playing 60 games. They probably make the playoffs if not his injury that season.
To be fair, we would need to compare supporting casts and then understand how tough the west is vs. what the east has been for a long time now.

Why is this?

Well in my opinion the East just has a much higher concentration of really horrible owners.

These are idiots that make lots of bad decisions, interfere in operations and generally muck things up.

Looking at the Knicks and Cleveland in particular but there are other franchises that can't see to do much even with their high picks. I would even point a finger at my own Bulls the past 10 years or so.

Orlando is almost always bad too. New Jersey....just lots of bad franchises in the east.
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Old 03-07-2019, 07:31 PM
 
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This is a hilarious\annoying thread start to finish.

First off, people made ridiculously high predictions of the Lakers win totals considering that they don't play in the east where Lebron and 4 guys from the YMCA can make the playoffs.

Then, when they wind up being about a 40 win team instead of a 55 win team his first year there.....people melt down like it was some sort of collapse or great failing.

People had silly, irrational expectations about Lebron & friends his first year there and are now melting down largely because of the 24-7 news cycle where they have to turn molehills into mountains on a daily basis.
Well, here's the thing.

As the commentators in the video point out, before LBJ went down, the Lakers were sitting pretty in fourth place in the western conference standings.

While some may have had visions of LBJ's signing being a longer term project where his first season was just to feel things out and add the pieces later, I don't blame many if they felt the Lakers were ready to go to the playoffs right away and maybe even go deep.

After all, LBJ took a bunch of scrubs last year to the NBA finals. And he took them there despite being counted out many times during the season as internal strife and injuries to the Cavs took their toll.

However, no one expected LBJ to suffer the worst injury of his career. That injury was a sobering reminder to Lakers management that LBJ's window of opportunity to win a championships with the Lakers was rapidly narrowing, at least in the way they envisioned. At age 34, he has a lot of mileage and wear and tear on his body. And no one wanted LBJ to throw his team under the bus in the pursuit of Anthony Davis, and then calling out his teammates for their effort when he himself was playing zero defense.
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Old 03-07-2019, 07:38 PM
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Lebron went to the Lakers for business reasons(to build his brand), so he shouldn't be complaining about them losing now. If he was serious about winning a title, he should've taken less $$ to play with a contender. Smh
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Old 03-08-2019, 10:07 AM
 
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Well, here's the thing.

As the commentators in the video point out, before LBJ went down, the Lakers were sitting pretty in fourth place in the western conference standings.

While some may have had visions of LBJ's signing being a longer term project where his first season was just to feel things out and add the pieces later, I don't blame many if they felt the Lakers were ready to go to the playoffs right away and maybe even go deep.

After all, LBJ took a bunch of scrubs last year to the NBA finals. And he took them there despite being counted out many times during the season as internal strife and injuries to the Cavs took their toll.

However, no one expected LBJ to suffer the worst injury of his career. That injury was a sobering reminder to Lakers management that LBJ's window of opportunity to win a championships with the Lakers was rapidly narrowing, at least in the way they envisioned. At age 34, he has a lot of mileage and wear and tear on his body. And no one wanted LBJ to throw his team under the bus in the pursuit of Anthony Davis, and then calling out his teammates for their effort when he himself was playing zero defense.
Good post.

Yes, we've seen it with almost all the greats as they get around their mid 30's (if not earlier) they start to drop off.

If I'm being honest, Lebron only made the finals that year because the east was weak and depleted by injury, we all know what happened to open that window last year with KI going down and Boston taking them to 7 games.

Don't get me wrong, Lebron is amazing, and I know "deep playoff run" is intentionally vague but that squad wasn't getting back to the finals unless GS got in a bus crash and lost most of their starters for the series and that's if they even made the WCF.
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Old 03-08-2019, 11:22 AM
 
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Well, here's the thing.

As the commentators in the video point out, before LBJ went down, the Lakers were sitting pretty in fourth place in the western conference standings.

While some may have had visions of LBJ's signing being a longer term project where his first season was just to feel things out and add the pieces later, I don't blame many if they felt the Lakers were ready to go to the playoffs right away and maybe even go deep.

After all, LBJ took a bunch of scrubs last year to the NBA finals. And he took them there despite being counted out many times during the season as internal strife and injuries to the Cavs took their toll.

However, no one expected LBJ to suffer the worst injury of his career. That injury was a sobering reminder to Lakers management that LBJ's window of opportunity to win a championships with the Lakers was rapidly narrowing, at least in the way they envisioned. At age 34, he has a lot of mileage and wear and tear on his body. And no one wanted LBJ to throw his team under the bus in the pursuit of Anthony Davis, and then calling out his teammates for their effort when he himself was playing zero defense.
But when the Lakers were 4th, had they played a difficult schedule or an easy schedule?
And even more importantly, even if they never had injuries, would they have remained consistent enough when we know they didn't have enough perimeter shooters?
I have my doubts, and in the first quarter of the season the standings are often very tight and only later on do we find out who are the real playoff teams....
Yeah LeBron can carry a team through the Eastern playoffs, but prior to this season I can't remember the last time anyone thought the East was a tough conference.
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