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View Poll Results: How many regular season wins for the lakers in 2018-19?
35-40 11 18.03%
40-45 15 24.59%
45-50 16 26.23%
50-55 15 24.59%
55-60 2 3.28%
60+ 2 3.28%
Voters: 61. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-23-2018, 03:56 AM
 
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LeBron cruising on defense when playing in the West is a lot more costly, and doubly so with a weak defensive unit like the Lakers (just as bad as last year's Cavs, or worse).
But if LeBron gives his energy to playing defense he may be weak offensively in the 2nd half.
The Lakers are more athletic than last year's Cavs, so the Lakers have the potential to play decent defense, but their defensive IQ is low (whereas even a weak defender like Kevin Love was at least smart) despite having Rondo, Ball and McGee....
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:35 AM
 
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Well 0-2 with the Spurs tonight.

If the Lakers lose will it be too early to say “welcome to the western conference Lebron”?

If the Lakers do get help next year, it might take a season to work out the bugs...problem might be that Lebron will be 35.5 yo entering the 2020 playoffs. Would he still be able to carry a team if you’re looking at winning a championship in 2 years?
The Lakers blueprint right now imo has to be aimed at getting young talent and slowly passing the torch to them from Lebron. We saw this with Tim Duncan and the Spurs, Kareem's years with the Lakers and we know Magic remembers that lol.

Lakers probably aren't going to be a deep playoff threat for at least a few more years but that's not a bad thing. Again, they're on the right trajectory.
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Old 10-23-2018, 11:02 AM
 
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The Lakers blueprint right now imo has to be aimed at getting young talent and slowly passing the torch to them from Lebron. We saw this with Tim Duncan and the Spurs, Kareem's years with the Lakers and we know Magic remembers that lol.

Lakers probably aren't going to be a deep playoff threat for at least a few more years but that's not a bad thing. Again, they're on the right trajectory.
Sounds like they are just another team hoping their young talent pans out...Lebron may ultimately be a stop gap between the young talent either becoming good or just ok.
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Old 10-23-2018, 11:32 AM
 
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Many new players- will take time for them to learn to play together. Plus, some of these guys-Rondo, Beasley, Mcghee may not help their team chemistry. I'll say 44 wins.
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:33 AM
 
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Sounds like they are just another team hoping their young talent pans out...Lebron may ultimately be a stop gap between the young talent either becoming good or just ok.
That and free-agent acquisitions.

I think one thing a lot of people overlooked is that Buss Jr. didn't leave Magic in that great of a position in terms of draft picks etc. relative to how bad the team was for a while.

I think they're going to need all hands on deck to build a team that could begin to challenge a GS.
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Old 10-24-2018, 07:58 AM
 
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Lakers fortunes are really all dependent on another superstar joining LeBron.
If the Lakers young guns all develop really well, it'll just lead to really good depth, probably not a superstar.
And you need 2 superstars to get a ring.
I mean look at Boston, they have insane depth, several all-star-type players, and still they aren't expected to beat Golden State.
Boston don't have superstars.
Who has come closest to beating Golden State? Houston, and they have 2 superstars.
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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Well 0-2 with the Spurs tonight.

If the Lakers lose will it be too early to say “welcome to the western conference Lebron”?

If the Lakers do get help next year, it might take a season to work out the bugs...problem might be that Lebron will be 35.5 yo entering the 2020 playoffs. Would he still be able to carry a team if you’re looking at winning a championship in 2 years?

Call me crazy, believe me I've been called much worse, but I believe the best thing that could happen in the next 3 years, or however long LBJ remains with the Lakers is to miss the playoffs this year. This team could potentially win a first round series, maybe even a second round series if they got the right matchup, but they are not beating the Warriors, so the best thing LeBron could do is sit out the last half of April, all of May, and the first half of June. 2 months may not seem like much to you or me, but when you are a 33 year old who has basically played an extra 2 seasons the last 6 years when you factor in all the playoff games LeBron played the last 6 years in Cleveland & Miami, sitting out 2 months could be the best thing that could happen to you. Save some wear and tear on those knees.
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Old 10-25-2018, 11:13 AM
 
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Call me crazy, believe me I've been called much worse, but I believe the best thing that could happen in the next 3 years, or however long LBJ remains with the Lakers is to miss the playoffs this year. This team could potentially win a first round series, maybe even a second round series if they got the right matchup, but they are not beating the Warriors, so the best thing LeBron could do is sit out the last half of April, all of May, and the first half of June. 2 months may not seem like much to you or me, but when you are a 33 year old who has basically played an extra 2 seasons the last 6 years when you factor in all the playoff games LeBron played the last 6 years in Cleveland & Miami, sitting out 2 months could be the best thing that could happen to you. Save some wear and tear on those knees.
I think at this point, the idea that the Lakers could even make the playoffs this season let alone win a series doesn't have a lot of support.

If we re-took this poll today facing the reality of all the new pieces and how long it's going to take to gel and even then the west is a tough environment....How many people still see them as a 47+ win team this season which is about what it took last year to make the playoffs?

I was 40-45 and even now I'm thinking I might have been a bit high myself.

But again, that's not a knock on the Lakers but rather the reality of something that is just going to take some time and additional trades etc.
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Old 10-30-2018, 01:05 PM
 
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I don't see how being overshadowed is a good thing.
I'd rather be the only top tier legend in my franchise history and be responsible for the only championships in my franchise history.
Michael Jordan is the perfect example.
If Jordan had joined the Lakers, he'd be mentioned in the same breath as Magic and Kareem forever and would be just one of the guys.
Instead he's mentioned pretty much all on his own, despite Pippen being his teammate, its primarily Jordan's franchise and Jordan's championships.
Jordan is not part of a "winning legacy" or winning tradition.
Jordan arrived, Bulls won 6 rings, and that's their history.
I like the sound of that a lot more than "Jordan added to the Lakers storied franchise"....

Seems like you're changing the narrative, MJ was drafted a Bull, he didn't elect to go to the Bulls as a FA. I thought that was what this thread was about. Signing elsewhere where the new team had a winning tradition.

But I do get your point as MJ being the only statue outside their arena in Chicago. As oppose to all the statues outside Staples Center.
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:55 PM
 
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Seems like you're changing the narrative, MJ was drafted a Bull, he didn't elect to go to the Bulls as a FA. I thought that was what this thread was about. Signing elsewhere where the new team had a winning tradition.

But I do get your point as MJ being the only statue outside their arena in Chicago. As oppose to all the statues outside Staples Center.
He was drafted a Bull, but he could have signed elsewhere or signed a shorter contract at least.
He signed an 8-year $25mill deal.
He endured many years of not even being the best in the East, first to Boston and then to Detroit, until finally reaching the NBA Finals in 1991.

He could have joined the Lakers (of course he never would, because he's known for disliking the Lakers) or some other team with stars....
He's not a Chicago native, but he stayed anyway.
And he was only friends with Craig Hodges, nobody else in that team.

He could have joined his best friend Barkley in Philly, seeing as Barkley wasn't a championship contender anyway (so not a 'rival' as much as guys like Magic, Bird, Zeke).
He loves Madison Square Garden, and earlier in his career may have considered New York with his close friend Ewing.

He could have gone anywhere with a better chance of winning rings, seeing as he cared more about winning than anything.
But he chose to take Chicago from the bottom to the very top, and be solely responsible for every notable victory in their history.
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