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Old 02-09-2009, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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OKC is an outpost in comparison to Seattle. Not only that, the NBA lost one of it's 2 Pacific Northwest franchises, and now has 5 teams (OKC, Dallas, San Antonio, Houston, New Orleans) all within a couple hundred miles of eachother raping eachothers fanbases. You call that good business? Keep dreaming. That league has been spiraling downward ever since Jordan retired, and with assanine moves like this, that spiral seems to know no end.
If you want to go back to 2001, the NBA has lost 2 of it's 3 NBA franchises (that it had at the time) in the Pacific NW. The Griz should have never left Vancouver.
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Old 02-10-2009, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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BRING BACK the BRAVES ALL HAIL the BUFFALO BRAVES. they did better as the BRAVES than the CLIPPERS
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:08 AM
 
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I hope the Thunder suck forever and Clay Bennett cries.
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:39 AM
 
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BRING BACK the BRAVES ALL HAIL the BUFFALO BRAVES. they did better as the BRAVES than the CLIPPERS
Bah - they're no Rochester Royals!

as for the seattle sloppy seconds - i hope clay burns forever

they won't be able to keep the young talent together - mainly because it's friggin OKC - if you want to see the future of that franchise, just look a little bit to the east and stop at memphis
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Old 02-10-2009, 01:40 PM
 
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Bah - they're no Rochester Royals!

as for the seattle sloppy seconds - i hope clay burns forever

they won't be able to keep the young talent together - mainly because it's friggin OKC - if you want to see the future of that franchise, just look a little bit to the east and stop at memphis
The Rochester Royals became the Kansas City Roy...oh wait can't use that name...and thus the KC Kings were born. (Then Sacramento)

Wierd stuff...like how you get the Utah Jazz
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Old 02-10-2009, 02:04 PM
 
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yep - they still hang the rochester royals NBA championship banner in the rochester stadium (not sure what it's called now -was the war memorial when I was living up in that area)
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Old 02-10-2009, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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Bah - they're no Rochester Royals!

as for the seattle sloppy seconds - i hope clay burns forever

they won't be able to keep the young talent together - mainly because it's friggin OKC - if you want to see the future of that franchise, just look a little bit to the east and stop at memphis
Right on. Like I said earlier about Memphis even getting the Grizzles. Vancouver has about 2.2 to 2.5 million within an hour drive. Memphis has about 1.4 max.
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Old 02-10-2009, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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Right on. Like I said earlier about Memphis even getting the Grizzles. Vancouver has about 2.2 to 2.5 million within an hour drive. Memphis has about 1.4 max.
The Grizzlies left Vancouver because of low attendance and losing large sums of money. The only shame about the Grizzlies moving was that the Vancouver market didn't get a fair opportunity to show what they could do given a long term opportunity.

Memphis getting an NBA team was inevitable; the Grizzlies and Hornets both tried moving there, they would have received an expansion team had neither team moved there.
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:06 AM
 
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Right on. Like I said earlier about Memphis even getting the Grizzles. Vancouver has about 2.2 to 2.5 million within an hour drive. Memphis has about 1.4 max.
In fairness though, you need to consider what other options are competing for your ticket money. Some places like OKC just don't have other *distractions* and could build a loyal passionate following...not saying they will....but the topic is a little grey.

As an example, Omaha has one of the best Zoos in the world, considered #2 in the country behind San Diego. They get huge private donations and draw large crowds etc.
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Old 02-11-2009, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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The Grizzlies left Vancouver because of low attendance and losing large sums of money. The only shame about the Grizzlies moving was that the Vancouver market didn't get a fair opportunity to show what they could do given a long term opportunity.

Memphis getting an NBA team was inevitable; the Grizzlies and Hornets both tried moving there, they would have received an expansion team had neither team moved there.
Losing $, yes, but that was primarily due to the value of the Canadian dollar in 1999 to 2001.
Attendance however? It's actually a little bit worse in Memphis.
(or not for sure better).
Vancouver Grizzlies 1995-96 41 17, 183

Vancouver Grizzlies 1996-97 41 16, 571

Vancouver Grizzlies 1997-98 41 16, 109

Vancouver Grizzlies 1998-99 25 16, 719

Vancouver Grizzlies 1999-00 41 13, 899

Vancouver Grizzlies 2000-01 41 13, 737

Memphis Grizzlies 2001-02 41 14, 415

Memphis Grizzlies 2002-03 41 14, 910

Memphis Grizzlies 2003-04 41 15, 188

Memphis Grizzlies 2004-05 41 16, 862

god knows how bad the memphis attendace was in 2006-2007, terrible...
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