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Old 04-04-2009, 06:12 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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What do you think are the 8 college bball teams with the most tradition?

Some all time stats to consider...

All time NCAA Tourney appearances
NCAA Men's Division I Tournament bids by school - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1st - Kentucky (50)
2nd - UCLA (43)
3rd - North Carolina (41)
4th - Kansas (38)
5th - tie - Louisville & Indiana (35)
6th - Duke (33)
7th - Syracuse (32)
8th - Villanova (30)

All time NCAA Tourney wins


1st - North Carolina (100)
2nd - UCLA (99)
3rd - Kentucky (98)
4th - Duke (88)
5th - Kansas (86)
6th - tie - Louisville & Indiana (60)
7th - Syracuse (50)
8th - Villanova (48)

All time Final Fours
NCAA Men's Division I Final Four appearances by school - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1st - tie - North Carolina & UCLA (18)
2nd - Duke (14)
3rd - tie - Kansas & Kentucky (13)
4th - Ohio State (10)
5th - tie - Louisville & Indiana (8)
6th - Michigan State (7)
7th - 5 tied w/ 6
8th - 3 tied w/ 5

Based on these 3 post season parameters I'd list my all time "Elite 8" as...

The first 3 are toss ups - in any order
1. North Carolina
2. Kentucky
3. UCLA


Either Duke or Kansas for the next 2 spots

4. Duke
5. Kansas


Either Louisville or Indiana for the next 3 spots

6. Louisville
7. Indiana


with Syracuse rounding out the list

8. Syracuse

I think the first teams on the outside looking in would be Villanova and Michigan State - either could move into the Elite 8 over Indiana (or maybe Syracuse in the future) with continued success

Do you agree or disagree??
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Old 04-04-2009, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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Indiana has more national titles than Villanova has Final Four appearances.

Villanova is about 4 national titles behind Indiana; not to mention they only have four Final Four appearances including this year; and this is their first apparance in 24 years. I can see the argument of Nova leapfrogging Syracuse; but there is a wide gap between the 'Cuse and the teams ahead of them. I think Michigan State can climb that ladder faster than Nova.

It should be noted; that Nova is not ranked 8th in either of the categories you have them ranked 8th. They are 9th; and lagging well behind in the important categories; ie Final Fours and national titles.
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Old 08-31-2009, 04:08 PM
 
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It depends on what you consider "tradition."

Based on pure history, Kansas is by far the most tradition-rich school. Freaking James Naismith, the game's inventor, was KU's first coach. Phog Allen, the father of the modern bball coach, also called KU home. Not to mention their endless famous and luminary alumni (including Wilt Chamberlain).
If history is your Criteria, then KU is #1, hands down. If you just go by success (wins, NC's, Final Fours, etc.) then here is my list.

1. Kentucky
2. North Carolina
3. Kansas
4. UCLA (Yes, they have 11 NC's, but haven't been as consistently good as the others)
5. Indiana
6. Duke (Recently dominant, but lack the history and NC's as the others)
7. Louisville
8. Syracuse
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Old 09-01-2009, 01:13 PM
 
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It depends on what you consider "tradition."

Based on pure history, Kansas is by far the most tradition-rich school. Freaking James Naismith, the game's inventor, was KU's first coach. Phog Allen, the father of the modern bball coach, also called KU home. Not to mention their endless famous and luminary alumni (including Wilt Chamberlain).
If history is your Criteria, then KU is #1, hands down. If you just go by success (wins, NC's, Final Fours, etc.) then here is my list.

1. Kentucky
2. North Carolina
3. Kansas
4. UCLA (Yes, they have 11 NC's, but haven't been as consistently good as the others)
5. Indiana
6. Duke (Recently dominant, but lack the history and NC's as the others)
7. Louisville
8. Syracuse
Good choices! I pretty much agree with these rankings for the reasons you have listed.
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Old 09-02-2009, 02:22 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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As good as Indiana's tradition is they are close to falling from elite status IMO. They are looking at several more losing seasons and may go five years with even getting in the tourney. They really need to consider rebranding their program with a new arena & cooler logo/ uniforms - right now IU has a "leave it to beaver" image that 18 yr old kids don't find very intriguing.
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Old 09-02-2009, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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As good as Indiana's tradition is they are close to falling from elite status IMO. They are looking at several more losing seasons and may go five years with even getting in the tourney. They really need to consider rebranding their program with a new arena & cooler logo/ uniforms - right now IU has a "leave it to beaver" image that 18 yr old kids don't find very intriguing.
You obviously know very little about Indiana's basketball program.

If in 5 years, Indiana has not made an NCAA tourney appearance, I will buy you a nice new Eagle Talonand some Pitino sweat, ok?

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Old 09-03-2009, 03:56 AM
 
Location: Sacramento, CA
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1. Kentucky
2. UCLA
3. North Carolina
4. Duke
5. Kansas
6. Louisville
7. Indiana
8. Syracuse

and then the top 25:

9. Michigan State
10. Georgetown
11. Villanova
12. Connecticut
13. Ohio State
14. Michigan
15. Arkansas
16. Arizona
17. Cincinnati
18. Oklahoma State
19. Utah
20. Maryland
21. Illinois
22. Oklahoma
23. Kansas State
24. Memphis
25. Texas
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:08 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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What do you think are the 8 college bball teams with the most tradition?

Some all time stats to consider...

All time NCAA Tourney appearances
NCAA Men's Division I Tournament bids by school - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1st - Kentucky (50)
2nd - UCLA (43)
3rd - North Carolina (41)
4th - Kansas (38)
5th - tie - Louisville & Indiana (35)
6th - Duke (33)
7th - Syracuse (32)
8th - Villanova (30)

All time NCAA Tourney wins

1st - North Carolina (100)
2nd - UCLA (99)
3rd - Kentucky (98)
4th - Duke (88)
5th - Kansas (86)
6th - tie - Louisville & Indiana (60)
7th - Syracuse (50)
8th - Villanova (48)

All time Final Fours
NCAA Men's Division I Final Four appearances by school - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1st - tie - North Carolina & UCLA (18)
2nd - Duke (14)
3rd - tie - Kansas & Kentucky (13)
4th - Ohio State (10)
5th - tie - Louisville & Indiana (8)
6th - Michigan State (7)
7th - 5 tied w/ 6
8th - 3 tied w/ 5

Based on these 3 post season parameters I'd list my all time "Elite 8" as...

The first 3 are toss ups - in any order
1. North Carolina
2. Kentucky
3. UCLA
Your assesment, at first, seemed to be very logical. But did you just coincentally leave out total championships in reaching your conclusion? That normally should be thee biggest factor.
UCLA has the most college championships at 11.
If anything:
1. UCLA
2. North Carolina
3. Kentucky
the rest is up for speculation
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Old 09-20-2009, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD/Washington DC
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When I think of the elite college basketball programs all-time, I think of (in no particular order) North Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, UCLA, Kansas, and Indiana.
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Old 09-23-2009, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Please note that you're talking about MEN's college basketball.
Because the winningest coach in all of NCAA college basketball history is Pat Summit, Lady Vols coach, with a 1005-193 record and 8 NCAA championships.
Last year was the first time since 1984 that the Lady Vols didn't make the Sweet Sixteen.
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