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06-18-2009, 11:58 PM
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Anyone who thinks there can be a clear cut "greatest player" in a team game and professional league that spans over 60 years is insanse. Please do not use to stats to make your case. Stats are heavily impacted by a players posistion, playing style, size, system, role within their teams framework, and other things. When comparing two different players it is nearly impossible to make an objective comparison. We all loved Mike, no doubt about it. But guys act like the NBA wasn't worth watching until Mike hit his peak in the 90s.
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06-21-2009, 07:10 AM
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Hardly anyone wants to give Russell any credit, yet he owned Wilt in the playoffs, don't give me that crap "oh Russell played when teams were hardly good".
If Bill Russell played in his prime today, he would wreck and dominate. His basketball IQ is way higher than many NBA players today.
So Jordan and Russell get my vote.
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07-01-2009, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Wellness
There is no debate that Jordon is the best player ever!
LeBron and Kobe have no chance in hell to reach Jordon level.
Never will happen.
Saw LeBron last night and was brutal! Yea he scored 49, but
Baron Davis can score 50 with a bad team.
Have people forgot how good Jordon was on both sides of the
ball and shooting free throws with his eyes closed!
Jordon is in a class of his own! Enough of the BS talk about
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Can't even spell his name right...
Who AVERAGED 50 points a game in one season? Not Jordan...WILT.
Who scored 100 points in a game? Not Jordan...WILT.
Who AVERAGED a Triple-Double for an entire season? Not Jordan...OSCAR ROBERTSON.
Who led his team to 11 Championships in just 13 seasons? Not Jordan...BILL RUSSELL.
To say it's not up for debate is pretty retarded. It's certainly up for debate, and I bet if Jordan and Lebron played each other in 1-on-1 in their prime, Jordan would get schooled and dominated. Lebron is a better passer and rebounder...and I don't even like the guy. And to say that Jordan is better than the guys who dominated the game so much that the rules were changed (Wilt, Russell, Kareem) to make them less dominant is just showing how ignorant to basketball history you are.
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07-28-2009, 11:05 PM
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you cant compare kobe and jordan just because its two different era's...when jordan was playing he and a few other guards were good/great ..is this era almost every team has a good/great guard if not two..and lebrons to young .he has to show he can win a championship
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08-19-2009, 07:56 PM
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give me russell and i win. simple as that. the greatest player and the greatest team player in the sport. anyone who doesn't understand that doesn't understand the game.
11 championships (8 in a row)
2 ncaa championships (55 game winning streak)
olympic gold medal
need i say more. oh yes by the time russell retired (beating the "greatest team ever" -- wilt, west and baylor -- for his 11th championship in the process) he was the only player left in the league from his rookie season (1956-57). how many generations did he destroy?
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08-19-2009, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by oldblue125
give me russell and i win. simple as that. the greatest player and the greatest team player in the sport. anyone who doesn't understand that doesn't understand the game.
11 championships (8 in a row)
2 ncaa championships (55 game winning streak)
olympic gold medal
need i say more. oh yes by the time russell retired (beating the "greatest team ever" -- wilt, west and baylor -- for his 11th championship in the process) he was the only player left in the league from his rookie season (1956-57). how many generations did he destroy?
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With all due respect, The league back then was nothing like when Jordan won his six rings. Do we really need to state the most obvious factor? |
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08-20-2009, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sleepy eyes 1979
With all due respect, The league back then was nothing like when Jordan won his six rings. Do we really need to state the most obvious factor?
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to me the obvious factor is the lack of fundamentals today. no longer do most players play "the game" (thank god i live in indiana). russell and whoever his teammates were would beat teams today, or in Jordan's day, with the game. i don't care about how fast you are, how high you can jump, or any of that. i've seen the game win far too often in my day to be convinced otherwise.
tell me what great teams jordan beat to win a championship |
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