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Old 01-28-2010, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Default Will Dennis Rodman be Hall of Famer?

I was looking at Dennis Rodman's stats yesterday....and he was a rebounding machine and he has the championships also...I know his off court life is ridiculous, but I feel he is a hall of famer because of the work he put in on the court and knowing his role on his perspective team...what do you guys think?
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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We all know how he loved the spotlight and played up to the cameras but no one can deny that the guy was a great role player and a rebounding machine.I definitely think he will make the hall.
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Old 01-28-2010, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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My concern would be that he was so offensively challenged that I'm not entirely sure.

Charles Barkley had double-digit rebound seasons for 15 straight seasons while also being productive offensively, scoring more than 20ppg 11 straight seasons.

Dennis Rodman scored over 10ppg once in his entire career.

I don't know - can anyone think of a player who made it into the hall of fame who was so specialized in that form - either rebound, defense, assists, etc - and lacked the offensive presense? Does anyone think Ben Wallace is a hall of famer?
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Old 01-28-2010, 06:07 PM
 
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yes he will be a hall of famer.

this is what phil jackson said about Dennis Rodman, after coaching Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Kobe Bryant, and so on:

"Dennis Rodman is the greatest athlete I've ever coached. He could probably play a 48-minute game and play the 48th minute stronger than the first minute of the game, He was that terrific an athlete.”
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Old 01-28-2010, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Central New Jersey
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Rodman was never one of my favorites back in the day but there is no denying that he was a great basketball player. Aside from his "artistic" appearance (which he always had) I don't know of anything he did off court - while he played or after retirement - that is any worse than the stuff that Charles Barkley does.
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Old 01-28-2010, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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My concern would be that he was so offensively challenged that I'm not entirely sure.

Charles Barkley had double-digit rebound seasons for 15 straight seasons while also being productive offensively, scoring more than 20ppg 11 straight seasons.

Dennis Rodman scored over 10ppg once in his entire career.

I don't know - can anyone think of a player who made it into the hall of fame who was so specialized in that form - either rebound, defense, assists, etc - and lacked the offensive presense? Does anyone think Ben Wallace is a hall of famer?
Are you kidding me? Did you ever watch him play? Why don't you see how many attempts he made per game.As for specialist look st MLB. Ever heard of Ozzie Smith?Defensive specialist,weak bat.Rodman rebounded and fed other players to take shots.He will easily make it.Not too many guys worked as hard as him.As far as Ben Wallace goes,you can't mention him in the same sentence as Rodman and Barkley was more like a SF then a PF.
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Old 01-28-2010, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Are you kidding me? Did you ever watch him play? Why don't you see how many attempts he made per game.As for specialist look st MLB. Ever heard of Ozzie Smith?Defensive specialist,weak bat.Rodman rebounded and fed other players to take shots.He will easily make it.Not too many guys worked as hard as him.As far as Ben Wallace goes,you can't mention him in the same sentence as Rodman and Barkley was more like a SF then a PF.
I think my thoughts were pretty spot on, to be honest.

In fact, I think playing devil's advocate is a good thing, and doesn't deserve an 'Are you kidding me' response.

1. Barkley's position doesn't matter - he's one of the greatest rebounders ever, and at 6'4''? I already gave you his stats - great rebounder, great scorer - hall of famer.

2. Ben Wallace is a tremendous comparison. He's a 4x all star, 4x defensive player of the year, 5x All-Defense, and for a few seasons, rebounded with the verocity that Rodman did. Granted, Rodman did it longer, but to counter that, Wallace was a better shot-blocker and was an NBA all star twice more than Rodman was. Wallace's career tapered off in recent years due to a bad back injury which is unfortunate, but the question remains: is Ben Wallace a hall of famer? In my opinion, he isn't close. So the real question is: is Rodman so much better than Wallace that he gets it? I'm not so sure.

3. You gave me MLB examples. I really don't think there is precedent for analyzing NBA players with MLB comparisons. Apples and oranges. It's an honest question: Can anyone think of an NBA hall-of-famer that is as specialized as Rodman? Is there someone who was as offensively-challenged as he was in the Hall of Fame?

4. His attempts were of course low - he couldn't shoot. If he could shoot, he would have shot more. I think that's a no-brainer.
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Old 01-28-2010, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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He was an over 50 % shooter for his career and his rebounds were in the teens for his career. You can't deny the averages.It doesn't hurt that he won a few championships for different teams too.
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Old 01-28-2010, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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My question for you is: Is John Stockton worthy of going into the hall? He made Karl Malone better especially with the chemistry,yet he averaged a little over 10 points a game and 10 assists. Yes Rodman should be in. I think his antics were crazy and annoying at times and i'm not a fan of any of the teams he played for including the Bulls or Pistons but facts are facts.
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Pasadena
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Rodman's craziness aside, he was a great NBA role-player like Robert Horry & deserves Hall of Fame recognition.
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