Baton Rouge and crime (Gardere: transfer, to live, stats)

[MetroBTR]

Originally Posted by fbbertusa

I have never been to any of the places You listed but I'm sure You are right ,one thing that makes BR so bad is there is no one or two areas to stay out of We have murders in some of the best Neighborhoods,crime seems to just roam in Br.

I've never head such as silly statement...okay, I have heard sillier, but still!

If you looked at last year's murder map, anyone with eyes could tell that murders only occured in high numbers in areas of North Baton Rouge and places like Gardere.

[fbbertusa]

Originally Posted by MetroBTR

I've never head such as silly statement...okay, I have heard sillier, but still!

If you looked at last year's murder map, anyone with eyes could tell that murders only occured in high numbers in areas of North Baton Rouge and places like Gardere.

Yes that was silly ,I worded my statement wrong.There are 3 main areas of high crime, N.BR, S.BR, Gardere Ln. But there is crime in other areas also but they don't out do the three main sites.I have looked at the murder maps and I believe we stand at 31 for the Yr not including the month May.Not anything to be proud of.

[darylwi]

Originally Posted by fbbertusa

I have looked at the murder maps and I believe we stand at 31 for the Yr not including the month May.Not anything to be proud of.

I can support that statement. The news did say we're on pace to outdo 2007, I think that was our high year?
But it's worth noting that most of these homicides are not just random acts of violence. A majority of these victims know their killer, which in itself is unfortunate. It's a society that has found it too easy to turn to guns when confronted with anger.

[MetroBTR]

Originally Posted by darylwi

I can support that statement. The news did say we're on pace to outdo 2007, I think that was our high year?
But it's worth noting that most of these homicides are not just random acts of violence. A majority of these victims know their killer, which in itself is unfortunate. It's a society that has found it too easy to turn to guns when confronted with anger.

That is something we can all agree on. It is rediculous! I am so tired of the crime happening in parts of this city. I am tired of criminals holding back progress.

[LMDJ]

Originally Posted by fbbertusa

BRMan; I am not trying to start anything neg.With You but A good friend of mine was killed In Pollard Estates which is one of the better places to live in BR.You are correct that the two worst areas are apparent to everyone but crime is all over just not as bad.There were three more bodies found Yesterday in North BR. which brings the total to 5 in the past ten days, this was on Brookstown St.That brings the total of murders in BR to 31 not including the month of May.Also My cousin just retired from the BR. Police dept. as a Capt. in charge of the third district which is the Sherwood Forest area and there was no shortage off Robberies and car theft and other various crimes just not the mostly Drug related murders that are in the other two areas discussed.

Would you? The people in that area are use to it and use to slow police response. Did you not see the article a couple of weeks ago in a murder case where all 3 or 4 of the witnesses had been murdered. Those folks have no confidence in police protection. People keep saying crime here is rising. It is at its highest point in this decade which is nothing compared to the early to mid 90's. Some of these people on here saying they've lived in BR all these years are either lying or have short memories. The early to mid 90's produce higher murder rates and more crime than what we're experiencing now.
I really hate how people keep saying the crime has really risen after katrina, like people from New Orleans have anything to do with it. I have several friends on the police force and they'll tell you those people have nothing to do with it. These are the same people from baton rouge killing each other, in the same neighborhoods where it has been happening for years.

Oh and one more thing for those posting the wrong stats: We've had 47 homicides in the BR area this year

[BRMan]

Originally Posted by LMDJ

Would you? The people in that area are use to it and use to slow police response. Did you not see the article a couple of weeks ago in a murder case where all 3 or 4 of the witnesses had been murdered. Those folks have no confidence in police protection. People keep saying crime here is rising. It is at its highest point in this decade which is nothing compared to the early to mid 90's. Some of these people on here saying they've lived in BR all these years are either lying or have short memories. The early to mid 90's produce higher murder rates and more crime than what we're experiencing now.

And even back in the early to mid 90s, I wasn't scared for my life living in BR. As we say repeatedly (and it wouldn't hurt to repeat again for those just tuning in) - the crime in BR is in identifiable areas. Which you know not to wander to at night.

[redbean]

Yes, if you don't do drugs or hang out with those who do, you'll be fine. I can walk down my street at midnite and not feel unsafe... at least no more than in any other city at night! I do happen to believe the crime will get worse in the next few decades but hope I am wrong. It'll probably get worse everywhere. And I think Baton Rouge has a fine police force that do a great job.

[Rosinante]

Originally Posted by LMDJ

Oh and one more thing for those posting the wrong stats: We've had 47 homicides in the BR area this year

I couldn't agree with the major portion of your post, but you are correct that the number (as of last Friday) was 47. Crime won't lessen until B. R. can get its act together in the schools. Sadly, I don't think that's going to happen.

[LMDJ]

Originally Posted by Rosinante

I couldn't agree with the major portion of your post, but you are correct that the number (as of last Friday) was 47. Crime won't lessen until B. R. can get its act together in the schools. Sadly, I don't think that's going to happen.

Here you go, when murder dipped it was part of a national trend:http://www.lsu.edu/capergroup/resour...r2005-wp01.pdf

In 2007 we had 72 our highest number since 1993, but in that 91-98 window the number of murders was usually no lower than 64-65 and that was with a significantly smaller population. I think in 1991 and 1992 the number of murders were in the 80's. We got on to the national trend late, just like anything else here (recession, housing crisis). It hit us in 1999 and the number of murders dropped, it hit New Orleans around that time also. New Orleans had 421 murders in 1994, and dropped considerably after that.

Murder total in the area just went up to 49, trailer park in central and another shooting in North BR. I don't think it is the schools. It's a culture of ignorance! I teach at an urban middle school and most of the kids don't get to see anything past their neighborhood which is filled with drugs and violence, so now wonder they grow up being violent. A lot of people like to attribute crime to blacks and it's true to a certain extent, but crime really follows socio-economic borders and it just happens that their are many more poor blacks than other races down here. It's not just school intervention that needs to take place, but these people need to be exposed to other things outside of their communities and it's sad to say, but somebody should have done the same thing with their parents. It's just ignorance rearing more ignorance. Police should also be held accountable. We have a couple that work at our school and all they do is scream at and try to intimidate the kids at school and on the streets. Many of my students told me stuff that they've said to them on the streets and it is totally inappropriate. That is another reason why in those communities people show animosity, and hostility towards police.

[MetroBTR]

Originally Posted by LMDJ

Here you go, when murder dipped it was part of a national trend:http://www.lsu.edu/capergroup/resour...r2005-wp01.pdf

In 2007 we had 72 our highest number since 1993, but in that 91-98 window the number of murders was usually no lower than 64-65 and that was with a significantly smaller population. I think in 1991 and 1992 the number of murders were in the 80's. We got on to the national trend late, just like anything else here (recession, housing crisis). It hit us in 1999 and the number of murders dropped, it hit New Orleans around that time also. New Orleans had 421 murders in 1994, and dropped considerably after that.

Murder total in the area just went up to 49, trailer park in central and another shooting in North BR. I don't think it is the schools. It's a culture of ignorance! I teach at an urban middle school and most of the kids don't get to see anything past their neighborhood which is filled with drugs and violence, so now wonder they grow up being violent. A lot of people like to attribute crime to blacks and it's true to a certain extent, but crime really follows socio-economic borders and it just happens that their are many more poor blacks than other races down here. It's not just school intervention that needs to take place, but these people need to be exposed to other things outside of their communities and it's sad to say, but somebody should have done the same thing with their parents. It's just ignorance rearing more ignorance. Police should also be held accountable. We have a couple that work at our school and all they do is scream at and try to intimidate the kids at school and on the streets. Many of my students told me stuff that they've said to them on the streets and it is totally inappropriate. That is another reason why in those communities people show animosity, and hostility towards police.

It's true I guess...other races are responsible for a large chunk of violent crime elsewhere, such as southern California and Miami. But here in Baton Rouge is almost all poor black on black crime. I think the advocate reported about 85% or 90%. The stats don't lie. It's ashame, though. I am friends with several blacks who managed to escape the declining culture, and they are some of the greatest friends a person could have.