Home Invasions on the Big Island (condominium, to buy, live)

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by leilaniguy

We keep our gate closed always whether we're home or not. Dropping by without calling first is considered rude.

I agree. We screen our calls and do not answer the door often. We do not feel as though we are here to answer the whim of others.

It used to be, as you probably know, a ruse of thieves to knock on the door or ring you up to find out if there is a pattern to when you are home and out.

[mangodog]

I have to be careful in how I phrase my words as the forum masters do not like things too controversial...
Having said that, I wish to say that instead of taking the guns away from the law abiding citizens, the government would do better by removing from "the scene" the twisted criminals who break into people's cars, homes, property.

To make clearer - eliminate the twisted criminals. Not confiscature of firearms.

[deegeemaree]

Yes, mangodog, I agree, I am not into gun control either. I feel we could do a lot more towards lessening violence in our society with good healthcare (MENTAL AND PHYSICAL) and education for all than with gun control.

Hmmm....something else to research. I'll be planning on bringing both the rifle and the shotgun bequeathed to me by my father (as well as my new bow and arrows) - so I'll have to find out how to bring them over legally. Bad guys won't enjoy coming to my house - unhappily for them I'm a pretty good shot.

[OpenD]

Originally Posted by deegeemaree

Hmmm....something else to research. I'll be planning on bringing both the rifle and the shotgun bequeathed to me by my father (as well as my new bow and arrows) - so I'll have to find out how to bring them over legally.

Hawai'i firearms law is among the most restrictive in the country, including a ban on certain assault weapons and high-capacity pistol magazines, but the process of bringing firearms into the state is pretty simple as long as you are eligible to own or possess a firearm in Hawai'i. Within three days of the arrival of the guns on the Big Island take them to the Police Department nearest you to register them (unloaded, in a closed case, with no ammo). Locations and hours are listed at the bottom of the info page I've linked below.

If you subsequently sell the guns, you must submit to the police within 48 hours the appropriate paperwork to change the registration to the new owner.

Who is ineligible to own or possess a firearm in Hawai'i? Persons are not eligible to own or possess a firearm or ammunition in Hawai'i if:

They are a fugitive from justice.

They are under indictment, have waived indictment or have been bound over to the circuit court for a felony, any crime of violence or illegal sale of any drug.

Have been convicted of a felony, any crime of violence or illegal sale of any drug.

Are or have been under treatment or counseling for addiction to or abuse of any dangerous, harmful or detrimental drug or alcohol.

Have been acquitted of a crime on the grounds of mental disease or mental disorder.

Have been diagnosed as having a significant behavioral, emotional or mental disorder or for treatment for organic brain syndromes.

Are younger than 25 and have been adjudicated by the family court to have committed a felony, two or more crimes of violence or an illegal sale of any drug.

Have been restrained by court order from contacting, threatening or physically abusing another person.

Firearm Registration

[deegeemaree]

Thank you Open D, as always, for your thorough answer! I, happily, do not have any issues at all to prevent me from owning a firearm so now I will just see what the legality is for getting them to the state - some areas you must ship them to an authorized arms dealer for pick up and some states you can just declare what they are ship them to yourself. It should not be hard to find out which one HI is.

[Robin Rossi]

Originally Posted by Jonah K

There's been a spate of home invasions on the Big Island. The commonality is that the crimes have been violent, the perpetrators have been either in their teens or early 20s, and the victims have been senior citizens. Hopefully, this isn't the beginning of a trend...
Elderly Puna woman hospitalized after violent home invasion | KHON2 Hawaii's News Leader
Hawaii island police seeking suspect who used stolen credit card - Hawaii News Now - KGMB and KHNL Home

In my career with a law-enforcement agency, home invasions can be reduced significanly by showing the US Flag at your house. Prospective perps see the flag and think to themselves that the occupants are far more likely to be armed that otherwise might be so.

Also, FBI data, collected over decades, indicates that the response that most often results in a "beneficial outcome", i.e. the potential victim escapes unharmed, and the perp is either deterred or captured, is armed (with a gun) resistance.

The response that more OFTEN results in the vicim being killed, is Passive Non-Resistance, so if you want to be safe, fly a flag and carry a piece (either on your person with a Concealled Carry permit or in the house available and accessible)

Also, as more and more people carry with a CC permit, criminals are flowing out to areas that are "safer" for them, i.e. less armed potential victims.

Pay no attention to the Clap Trap from the media, citizens carrying guns due to relaxed CC permit issuances has dramatcially reduced violent crime - especially manslaughter.

[eureka1]

So the original post was two years ago. Have home invasions continued to be a problem??

[oregonwoodsmoke]

I'm in an area that had no home invasions until meth moved into the area. It appears that meth heads have their judgement severely compromised and no longer care about whether or not what they are doing is dangerous or reasonable.

If there is a lot of meth in the area, then I would guess that home invasions will continue t be a problem.

[Robin Rossi]

Originally Posted by oregonwoodsmoke

I'm in an area that had no home invasions until meth moved into the area. It appears that meth heads have their judgement severely compromised and no longer care about whether or not what they are doing is dangerous or reasonable.

If there is a lot of meth in the area, then I would guess that home invasions will continue t be a problem.

It is also instructive to note than when England instituted much more-rigorous gun control laws, Home Invasions when up dramatically, as criminals realized they now had a passive, de-fanged victim.

Hawaii shoud wake up and understand that "bad guys", be they crimiinals, terrorists or whatever, will always possess the means of your destruciton, froma rope, to a knife, to gallon of gasoline. The only questions is will you be a passive, unarmed victim, or an active, armed survivor.

[whtviper1]

Originally Posted by Robin Rossi

It is also instructive to note than when England instituted much more-rigorous gun control laws, Home Invasions when up dramatically, as criminals realized they now had a passive, de-fanged victim.

I'm not going to get into the gun control debate one way or another - I will say having lived in Europe, Japan, and Australia - the feeling of being safe when walking the streets is overwhelming in those areas compared to the US and even here in Hawaii.

With that said - you have some huge gaps you are leaving out of your statement regarding home invasions - specifically in the UK.

In 1988, the UK banned semi-automatic rifles - and in 1996, banned handguns. It is true, that in the period of about 1988 to about 1995, domestic burglary spiked a huge amount, more than doubling from the early 1980's to the mid 1990's. However, it is equally true, that after the spike in the mid-1990's, an equally impressive drop in home burglaries occured, falling in half from the mid-1990's to the same rate as the early 1980's.

I'll also take the UK rate of 0.04 (not a typo) of firearm related homicides per year per 100,000 people versus the US rate of 3.7 per 100,000 people.