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Old 08-16-2014, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Appalachian Mountains
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Not sure why, but I never thought the Hawaii unemployment rate was under the national average.


  1. Big Island unemployment rate down in July
    West Hawaii Today ‎- 15 hours ago
    Around Hawaii, Honolulu City and County's unemployment rate in July decreased to 4.3 percent, down from 4.5 percent in June; Maui County's ...
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Old 08-16-2014, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Volcano
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Keep in mind that unemployment figures are notoriously bad at tracking long-term chronic unemployment, once unemployment benefits have been exhausted. There are some who say the "real" figures are double those mentioned in the article.

They also are generally useless at measuring underemployment, such as a laid off $35/hr tradesman working 19 hours a week at an $8/hr job to try to keep food on the table. There are lots and lots of 19 hour per week jobs, which skew the unemployment figures without actually providing full employment.
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Old 08-16-2014, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Kahala
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We have been having record tourism the past few years.
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Old 08-16-2014, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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Oahu has been having record tourism, however there's hotels being torn down in Kailua-Kona so maybe they aren't all the same on all the islands. But, I don't track tourism numbers, so maybe there's loads of them around.
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Old 08-16-2014, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Kahala
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True, the Big Island has not joined the tourism bandwagon but average room rates at the high end resorts are way up even if only 60% full
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Old 08-19-2014, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Naples & Sarasota Florida
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Not sure why, but I never thought the Hawaii unemployment rate was under the national average.


  1. Big Island unemployment rate down in July
    West Hawaii Today ‎- 15 hours ago
    Around Hawaii, Honolulu City and County's unemployment rate in July decreased to 4.3 percent, down from 4.5 percent in June; Maui County's ...
To make full disclosure, I do not live in Hawaii so I can't only speak to what I know is going on in Florida. My husband is a health care professional and once a person exhausts their unemployment benefits, people are then moved on to disability for "depression". That is the "catch all" that has been set up. So the unemployment numbers that are being reported in all states go down and the new disability enrollment, increase.

You can look into those numbers in Hawaii and I am sure that you will see the the same thing in that state as well.
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Old 08-19-2014, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Maui County, HI
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Keep in mind, if you give up looking for a job on the island and move to Oahu or the mainland, that's one less unemployed person in the stats...
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Old 08-19-2014, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Volcano
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To make full disclosure, I do not live in Hawaii so I can't only speak to what I know is going on in Florida. My husband is a health care professional and once a person exhausts their unemployment benefits, people are then moved on to disability for "depression". That is the "catch all" that has been set up. So the unemployment numbers that are being reported in all states go down and the new disability enrollment, increase.
Dubious? Yeah, I'm dubious. Very dubious. Might it have happened a few times in severe cases? Possibly. Enough times to move any stats? I seriously doubt it. I've never seen any official reports that would support this claim.

I have also talked to many, many people who have burned through their unemployment insurance benefits without being able to find work, who then just fall off the system and are no longer counted. Sure, it is depressing to almost everyone who reaches that point, but the deep sadness of situational depression is not in the same leagues as severe chronic depression, nor does it rise to (sink to?) the level of a crippling disability.

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You can look into those numbers in Hawaii and I am sure that you will see the the same thing in that state as well.
What numbers? You didn't offer any evidence at all, just mentioned something your husband said, and who knows what he knows? Sorry, without any proof being offered I'm filing your comment under "Fairy Tales." Or should it go under "Florida"?
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Old 08-20-2014, 07:20 AM
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Location: Hawaii
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Interesting (to me): don't know anyone on BI that isn't working. In addition, some have enough work to start culling their customers.
Note: I'm not disputing the unemployment numbers.
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Old 08-20-2014, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Hawaii-Puna District
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Interesting (to me): don't know anyone on BI that isn't working. In addition, some have enough work to start culling their customers.
Note: I'm not disputing the unemployment numbers.
I know a lot of people that do not "officially" have a job in Puna. That doesn't mean that they don't work - they work quite hard actually, but do side jobs for cash. They are not counted at all in any of the official reports. They are not looking for a job, have not been laid off, are not on disability...
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