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Old 04-24-2018, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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Most folks fill up a five gallon container at one of the roadside spigots for their drinking and cooking water.

Catchment tanks will usually leak, sometimes catastrophically (i.e. burst) when they age, so take that into consideration when siting the tank. Just assume that at some point the whole thing will melt down and where will the water go?

My 12,000 gallon tank was 25 years old when we replaced it. Never seen one burst. Rust however was a different story. At the end of its lifespan it did start to develop a few pinhole leaks but structurally still very much intact.
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Old 04-24-2018, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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I knew a guy in Ka'u down by south point who's newer water catchment burst. So did his neighbor's. His neighbor was on post and pier and the rush of water knocked the house off. They were both installed by the same outfit, but unfortunately I didn't ask who it was. This was about 6 years ago.

Moral of the story: references / ask questions. I've never heard of that happening anywhere else.
What kind of tank-one of the cheap plastic kiddie pool types? Also, I thought the posts were supposed to be bolted to the piers now, so perhaps some shoddy construction there.

A steel tank with a concrete base and food grade liner can last a life time, if properly assembled and cared for.
The liner may need to be replaced at some time though.
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Old 08-26-2018, 11:37 PM
 
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Akdoe - curious if you went through with the tank or got quotes?

I work for a company who just (Aug 8, 2018) had a 20,000 gal tank installed by waterworks.. It cost $7,100 with labor to install. Includes tank, hardware, liner, cover and overflow. Looking over the cost breakdown it seems the labor was $1000 and took one day. *It did not include the pad, that was $1,000 from someone my boss knows (meaning it could be more/less depending on your “hookup”) and I don’t think it was cemented, just base course/gravel.

I’m curious as to the cost of 10,000 vs 20,000 gal tanks. I was thinking based off of what I’ve read on forums and from friends the cost of 20,000 isn’t that much more and I might go for that.
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Old 08-27-2018, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Puna, Hawaii
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"What kind of tank-one of the cheap plastic kiddie pool types? Also, I thought the posts were supposed to be bolted to the piers now, so perhaps some shoddy construction there."


Steel tank variety. I don't know about the home construction.


"I was thinking based off of what I’ve read on forums and from friends the cost of 20,000 isn’t that much more and I might go for that."


I've heard the same thing, and I've also seen where people opted for two 10,000 gallon tanks for redundancy. It depends on what structures you have to catch the water. For some people it makes more sense to have the second 10,000 gallons stored out with the livestock. Larger tanks may have lower up-front costs but larger long-term costs?
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Old 09-20-2018, 10:52 PM
 
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Dakine-builder,

We are purchasing and installing our tank in December...I just saw your post, sorry it took a while! Thanks for the cost breakdown info!
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Henderson
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Dakine-builder,

We are purchasing and installing our tank in December...I just saw your post, sorry it took a while! Thanks for the cost breakdown info!
Did you get it put in? How did it go and what did it cost?
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Ocean View, Hawaii
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I just got a price on a new catchment tank 14,500 gallons. That would be a steel tank. Including liner and set up $5100. That did not include the cost of developing the pad but I cannot imagine it would be that much to do the pad. I live in Ocean view and the prices given to me two days ago
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Southernmost tip of the southernmost island in the southernmost state
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I just got a price on a new catchment tank 14,500 gallons. That would be a steel tank. Including liner and set up $5100. That did not include the cost of developing the pad but I cannot imagine it would be that much to do the pad. I live in Ocean view and the prices given to me two days ago
That's not a bad price, but 14,500 isn't much of a reserve. If you are committed to hauling water or buying more when you run low, than that is fine. But given that we can go 3-4 months in OV with no measureable rainfall, 14k isn't a lot.
For reference, I have two 20,000 and have never had to buy water.
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Ocean View, Hawaii
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We have a 2nd pad for another tank. Apparently the previous owner of the property had a 2nd tank but (foolishly) sold off the 2nd tank. We will probably just put it in as a 2nd tank anyway but the primary tank shows exterior rust. We just dont know what the extent of it is. We have an older Flemming tank which isn't made anymore (I am told) but it "sounds" solid when tapping on it. I've had people tell me to leave it and I've had people tell me to replace it.
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Old 01-14-2019, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Dublin, Ohio
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Just wondering if anyone has seen the Zero Mass Water system - see https://www.zeromasswater.com/ .


It looks interesting, and could possibly be another source of drinking water, but I don't really know anything about it other than what I've seen on their web site.


DISCLAIMER: I have nothing to do with the system or company, I just happened to stumble across it while wandering the internet.


Mickey
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