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Old 07-27-2012, 04:33 PM
Location: North Western NJ
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dont ask, no offence taken here bud, im not too familiar with quakers myself so i looked it up lol.

taminizluv, DEFINATLY some rubbung the worng way going on here too LOL...definatly a very offencive poster..

in terms of the "macaw mutations sunset posted...

picture #1 is either a Caloshua (blue and gold x hyacinth) OR a Milicinth (military x hyacinth) so while it is a macaw its a HYBRID...NOT a mutation...
picture #2 Is a "white scarlet" macaw, its a scarlet macaw effected by a form of the albinisam gene...yes this would technically be a mutation...(good luck finding one on the pet market...)
picture #3 (and #5) are of the same species, is an "opaline blue and gold" ( or "pied") macaw, a blue and gold effected by an "opaline" mutation, so yes THESE 2 pictures are a mutation but only count as 1 because dude...its the same type of bird LOL.
#4 is a Hyacinth x Scarlet macaw, again its a HYBRID not a MUTATION and so sorry, doesnt count...
and #6 is a Spix macaw...thats NOT a mutation because thats the ONLY color that species comes in, they are a blue macaw with a grey head andblack beak...
nice try bud, but macaws i know...lol

in terms of ACTUAL macaw mutations (Not Hybrids)
Blue and golds can come in 5 actual mutations or their base color (lutino, opaline/pied/yellow (depending o who you ask its the same bird), Cinnamon, Silver, and blue (the gold is replaced by white)
scarlets only have 1 (white)
buffons have 1 (cinnamon)
severes have 2 (pied, maroon/melanistic)
and greenwings have POSSIBLY 2 (blue and possibly turquoise though theres alot of debate over that one)

considering that macaws are not considered known for "mutations" unless your working with blue and golds...
they are however COMMONLY hybridized to create new colors, not a practice i personally agree with, and bybridization to create a new color is NOT the same as a color mutation (which occurs naturally and then must be "recreated" through selective breeding of birds with that same "mutant" color gene)
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:25 PM
Location: South Carolina
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Originally Posted by sunset2000 View Post
WRONG! You need to educate yourself.
Oh I m sorry but Im confusing hybrids with color mutations . wow you could tone down the tude sunset !!!
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by foxywench View Post
i dont know they ever will...

mutations in various breeds have various difficulties, its also based on the actaul availability of said color mutation.
Budgies and teils are highly common and their gentics so heavily diversified and breeding is so prolific that mutations are very easy to get even accidentally...
however in other bird species those mutations are more difficult to aquire, manipulate ect.

general rule of thumb is 1 color doesnt become "cheaper" untill a new color becomes available... so right now say theres the green, lutino and blue...blue being most expensive...when breeders develop a new color through selective breding eventually the other colors become a little cheaper...BUT due to gentics some species of bird only have so many variations possible no matter how you play with it...
in those cases the colors will only become cheaper as more animals (of any color) enter the market...
Yeah I agree with this opinion. Due to mutations in different breeds have many difficulties, is also based on the availability of said actaul color mutations.
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